ticalc.org
Basics Archives Community Services Programming
Hardware Help About Search Your Account
   Home :: Archives :: News :: Status update

Status update
Posted by ticalc.org on 2 November 2001, 21:21 GMT

Here is an update of the current status of our archives screening:

We are continuing work on the screening of our archives, but considering that there are more than 15,000 files in them, this will take a while longer. We are always looking at options to shorten this time. We are also going to be working with the authors of some of the popular programs that are in danger of being rejected in an attempt to resolv any issues and make it possible for the programs to remain in our archives.

Based upon the comments to the last news article, we would like to reiterate the fact that decision to temporarily close our archives was made by the ticalc.org staff, and we received no demands or threats about this issue.

At least one user has asked what will happen to the deleted files in case the only copy was on ticalc.org. To resolve this situation, we will keep the rejected files available for a period of time, during which the author can contact us to receive it.

Call for help
In our screening process, we would now like to ask for the help of our users. If you know of any file in the ticalc.org archives (wether it was on the CD or not is not an issue) that is in violation of our site policies (such as pornographic content or racist slandering), please let us know as soon as possible. Send a mail to webmaster@ticalc.org. If you still know it, let us know the filename and full path of the file. If this is not available (and we know it can be hard, since the archives are still down), please include the calculator model, whether it's basic or assembly, and wether it's a game or a program.
Your help in doing this will hopefully make our screening process faster.

 


The comments below are written by ticalc.org visitors. Their views are not necessarily those of ticalc.org, and ticalc.org takes no responsibility for their content.


FC: Re: Status update
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
(Web Page)

Are you going to make any changes to the upload process, to prevent these files from entering the archives in the first place?

     2 November 2001, 21:32 GMT

Re: FC: Re: Status update
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
(Web Page)

We are definitly considering doing so, but nothing has been decided yet.

     2 November 2001, 21:36 GMT


Re: Re: FC: Re: Status update
jtjdt  Account Info
(Web Page)

Can you open the PC Secion of your archives? They have nothing to do with the calculator stuff and programmers need them.



-Jd

     2 November 2001, 22:04 GMT


Changing the upload process: Authors should inform us of content, TI Calc can take approriate steps
Rgb9000  Account Info

In response to your question about the upload process, I think we could ammend the upload process and the user profile to protect the young ones from inappropriate content. Read on:

Woah, Woah, WOAH! I've been away from the community for a few weeks, and look what happens! Lets not go off the deep end here with this censorship thing! We (most of us, I think) live in AMERICA, land of the free, and we have something called "FREE SPEECH". We also have something called "FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION." This means we should NOT be censoring things. I think you should not delete any material from the archives. How are you going to define something as "bad", anyway? What if there is a genuinely good game, a RPG, that in one scene shows women's breasts? Would you take away the entire game just for one small image?And what about the E-Books? There are some classic novels in there. What if someone wanted to put 'to kill a mockingbird' in the archives? Would it be disallowed because of some light language? 'The grapes of wrath' has racial slurs referring to African americans, as does 'Of mice and men'. Besides, what is inappropriate in one country may be acceptable in another. I dont know the exact nature of the content, but destroying things like drugwars is crazy! Why would you do such a thing? These works, beleive it or not, are ART. They are independant works, pieces, and ideas meant for sharing. Students sharing with other students. I dont think anyone over 20 or not in school comes to this site anyway. If you dont like it, dont d/l it!

Here's my solution: You should just sift out the 'inconsistant with our values' stuff into seperate folers, and to access the files ,you had to be a registered user of a certain age. You could set up an age thing in the user profile, and if you were under X years old, you could not access the folder. Just put everything objectionable in a seperate folder with lots of RED WARNINGS & DISCLAIMERS at the top. You could have BOLD RED TEXT saying: Everything in this folder is inconsistent with our values, we reccommend you do not download, bla bla bla... but still allow users to download those files anyway. I say just put some things in seperate folders, and when authors upload stuff, if it doesnt meet value requirements x, y, and z, they would be required to mention that it should go in those folders or else. Or else what is up to you. So, if i wanted to upload a game that in one scene had nudity, I would have to mention that nudity in my upload request, and if I failed to, you could issue me a 'warning'. Any user who wanted that file would have to have an account and would have to have an age entry in thier profile that was appropriate to even access the folder it was in.

Besides, sometimes people might write their first program, and it is more of a test, and sometimes people use other people's work for thier own research or experimentation. (Source code, etc)

I just dont think that deleting our past is appropriate at all. TI CALC:DONT DELETE ANYTHING, PLEASE!

     5 November 2001, 18:48 GMT

Re: Status update
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
(Web Page)

And on another note, for those asking for a new survey. As you no doubt realise, we are extremely busy right now. If you have any good ideas for a survey, plase send them to survey@ticalc.org, and we will attempt to put something up.

If you sent there before, please do so again - there may have been some problems with that mailbox.

     2 November 2001, 21:35 GMT


Re: Re: Status update
Norman  Account Info
(Web Page)

I have an idea:

Censorship:
----------
Wrong?
Right?

     2 November 2001, 22:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Status update
thegiver  Account Info

_/--\_
/ \
( i~~i ) Idea: should crappy basic games be allowed
\ i i / Unless public demand?
|------|
\------/
\#/ <- Lightbulb

     3 November 2001, 01:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

NO! This wouldn't be fair, I understand that some people upload all of their programs even though they're useless but the fact still remains. Encouraging to upload only useful programs wouldn't work because many people don't really care about it.

     4 November 2001, 00:39 GMT


Useful or Not
ooosadface

Besides, who would decide which programs are 'useful'/'crappy' or not?

     5 November 2001, 14:50 GMT


Re: Useful or Not
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

Good point.

     5 November 2001, 22:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Status update
Made_in_China  Account Info

I think it's wrong in some cases, but most definitly not all (not even most), people should be able to say what they want when they want without having to fear of being persecuted, take examples of some of the greatest literature, Huckleberry Finn (says the word "nigger" *crowd wispers "I can't believe he said that"*), Farenhite 451 (drug use), Chatos Kitchen (aparently the cat dressed as a gangster), Inherit the Wind (bags on religion), but i do believe that some are inappropriate such as "How to become a Sucessful Hitman" and "Serial Killer for Dummies" (made the last one up)

     3 November 2001, 04:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
jtjdt  Account Info
(Web Page)

It's not wrong when it's on this site. But it is wrong when it's being massed produced on cd in calculator packages where little kids can get there hands on them.


-JD

     3 November 2001, 21:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Made_in_China  Account Info

but little kidies can go on-line ang get it just as easily if not easier

     4 November 2001, 03:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

What does 'little' mean in your point of view? Also, do 'little' kids have graphing calculators and go browsing the web? If so, then there are much better porn sites than ticalc.org
Peace everyone!

     5 November 2001, 03:57 GMT

Re: Status update
Nick Johnston  Account Info
(Web Page)

Can you reopen a section of your archives at a time. Like go over all 82 stuff and then reopen, 83, 83+, Win, etc. etc. so at least TICalc can be partly operational. 99% of the people come here for games and they can't access a single 1.
TI Transferred Material on Internet Chart
Before Shutdown |***********************************|
After Shutdown |**** |
Get the picture?

     2 November 2001, 22:49 GMT

Re: Re: Status update
mr_beans_cool  Account Info

You took the words right out of my mouth. As the files are cleaned out or removed, and you are done with a section, couldn't you reopen that part alone? It would be a convenience for us and I'm sure that you guys would stop hearing complaints about this.

     2 November 2001, 23:21 GMT

Re: Re: Status update
Nathan Haines  Account Info
(Web Page)

You know that's a lot harder to actually do than it sounds. :P

Anyhow, we're doing our best to try and get our archives back up, trust us. It's a big job!

     2 November 2001, 23:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Status update
Nick Johnston  Account Info
(Web Page)

What would have to be done that is such an extra conveniance to put up on calc platform at a time. It also saves your site from being bogged down ie. flow of 82ers, flow of 83ers, ...flow of windowers,etc.

     2 November 2001, 23:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Nathan Haines  Account Info
(Web Page)

I'm not going to go into details; suffice to say it's just not that easy (or else we'd have done it by now--we run these things via database, you know), and that we (who aren't getting paid and have school and work to think about, too) are working as quickly as possible.

     2 November 2001, 23:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Nick Johnston  Account Info
(Web Page)

Could you give me a reasonable estimate for present completion of archival overhaul? (How far are you)
I am a programmer with lots of stuff to add to the archives that is appropriate and it took forever before. I may not get everything on there before graduation!

     2 November 2001, 23:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Nathan Haines  Account Info
(Web Page)

Um, hmm. I don't think I should, since of course it's so highly variable... I think you'll see something very soon.

That's all I'm going to say, honest. :) Doesn't necessarily mean what you think... just stay tuned, we're busy.

     3 November 2001, 00:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

That was was a very helpful reply (sorry for sarcasm).

     4 November 2001, 00:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
toehead2  Account Info

and your a jerk

     4 November 2001, 15:16 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Barrett Anderson  Account Info
(Web Page)

all people want to know is: days? weeks? months? years?... i know it's a HUGE archive, but no one knows how many staff members are working on it how often and for how long, being so busy with work and school and stuff. an estimate doesn't necessarily mean down to the week, it just means, should we be checking for the archives any time soon? or at least a week/month/months.

     4 November 2001, 22:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

and what shall you be?

     4 November 2001, 22:23 GMT

Re: Re: Status update
Kerey Roper  Account Info
(Web Page)

calc.org has a very nice archive. I don't understand why more people don't use it. While it is much smaller than ticalc.org's archive, you should be able to find something that interests you in 3094 files.

     3 November 2001, 21:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Status update
lord_nightrose Account Info
(Web Page)

That might be difficult, seeing how the site is never running anymore. At least, not whenever I try to visit it.

     4 November 2001, 03:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
(Web Page)

Furthermore, they got Slashdotted today.

     4 November 2001, 04:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
aksuur

what is slashdotted?

     5 November 2001, 02:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Status update
stu floyd  Account Info
(Web Page)

means they got meantioned on slashdot.org, click the link

     12 November 2001, 16:53 GMT


Re: Re: Status update
Made_in_China  Account Info

good idea, but start form the 92 down (I have an 89, and 82 going up would take forever ;))

     4 November 2001, 03:10 GMT

1  2  3  

You can change the number of comments per page in Account Preferences.

  Copyright © 1996-2011, the ticalc.org project. All rights reserved. | Contact Us | Disclaimer