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ticalc.org Downtime
Posted by ticalc.org on 26 October 2001, 17:21 GMT

To our users,

We apologize for the downtime in the past week and the resulting inconvenience. We are now pleased to reopen all areas of the site apart from the file archives, which we expect to bring back as well as soon as we have completed a review to remove potentially inappropriate material. Unfortunately, we haven't set a date for bringing the archives back up, but we will post more details once we have a better estimate. Please bear with us -- our archives are extensive and the review will take time. If there is any area where our visitors can be of help, we will post more information.

Despite rumors to the contrary, we have received no threats or demands requesting we close our file archives. This is a decision made by our staff in the best interest of the site's future. This is also a move we take seriously, as we are aware that our users have come to rely on the availability of our archives.

Until our archives return, we invite you to try those of other sites linked from our front page and Community section. Authors of our hosted sites whose links are affected by the closure of our archives can email us at hosting@ticalc.org for assistance. Thanks for your continuing patience,

the ticalc.org staff

 


The comments below are written by ticalc.org visitors. Their views are not necessarily those of ticalc.org, and ticalc.org takes no responsibility for their content.


Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Hexalon  Account Info

your should screen the achives as they are being uploaded. i know that would slow down upload time even more but it would help that this situation wouldn't occur again.

     26 October 2001, 17:26 GMT

Re: ticalc.org Downtime
David  Account Info
(Web Page)

Wow, you all must have just reopened within the last twenty or so minutes...

Anyway I agree. I think that if files were screened while they were being added to the archives, you would always know that everything in the archives isn't "inappropriate material". Just out of curiosity, what was the nature of this inappropriate material? TI seems to be quite serious about recalling all the CD's and I was wondering how much hot water TICalc.org might have been in because of it. Glad to see you reopening though.

     26 October 2001, 17:43 GMT

Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Magnus Hagander  Account Info
(Web Page)

We have had reports on several issues, and we are still investigating. We are only talking about material that is already rejected according our Site Policies, that have previously slipped through our screening.

     26 October 2001, 17:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Peter Martijn Kuipers  Account Info

Maybe the screening would be less "painful" if you used scripts that searched the text's in the zipfiles for certain "inapproprate-specific" words, and let those files be manually screened, while you'd put up a user "inappropriateness"-rating system, which can (after a certain level of inappropriateness is reached) automatically put the file on hold, and send a review request to the staff....

I posted this sutggestion on calc.orgs news board, see thet for more details.

     26 October 2001, 21:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Barrett Anderson  Account Info
(Web Page)

this system of looking for certain words does NOT work at all. that's exactly what a filter on my computer does. (Content Watch) it blocks almost every single program (not that bad, i can get around it).. and disallows websites like men's health.com, and allows websites to be viewed in my email that are very bad... (i didn't intentionally go to these sites, they are just popped up)... it seems like a good idea, but it doesn't work at all.

     27 October 2001, 00:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Peter Martijn Kuipers  Account Info

That's true, and that's why I added the manual review of blocked files, and the user rating.

It's just so not all files have to be manually reviewed, and when a file slips through (as now happens too!), users can report it, while afer a certain nr. of negative ratings, the file can automatically be put on hold for review, instead of someone writing an email, and the archiver forgetting all about the email...
(just what I imagine could happen to me if I was archiver :-)

     27 October 2001, 07:55 GMT


i need new games
j y  Account Info

ahhhhh my games r gettin so repetitive i need some new ones hope they get the archives up soon

     30 October 2001, 00:36 GMT


GET ARCHIVES UP
jtjdt  Account Info
(Web Page)

SINCE ARCHIVES AREN'T UP I CAN'T GET A COPY OF THE LATEST TIGCC-SUITE
IF THERE IS SOMEONE WHO HAS IT CAN YOU PLEASE SEND IT TO JTJDT@MEDIAONE.NET

-THANKS

~`Jd`~

     31 October 2001, 16:06 GMT


Re: GET ARCHIVES UP
Kevin Kofler
(Web Page)

You can get it at http://tigcc.ticalc.org .

     31 October 2001, 21:37 GMT

Re: Re: GET ARCHIVES UP
jtjdt  Account Info
(Web Page)

you can't get it there because it's ALSO HOSTED THROUGH TICALC.ORG!!


`~Jd~`

     1 November 2001, 06:47 GMT


Re: Re: GET ARCHIVES UP
jtjdt  Account Info
(Web Page)

I think that ticalc.org should open up http://www.ticalc.org/pub/win/
archives since they have nothing to do with the cd's

     1 November 2001, 06:49 GMT

Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Martin W. Smith  Account Info
(Web Page)

As far as the "Inappropriate Material" Goes, if you read TI's disclaimer at:
http://www.ikevtiva.com/temp/ticd1.jpg and
http://www.ikevtiva.com/temp/ticd2.jpg
It says language and some graphics. My best guess is games like Drug Wars clones and strip blackjack. No dobt once all files have been checked, the stuff people actually want, such as routines and real games, will be back online. :)

     27 October 2001, 05:33 GMT

Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

What's so inappropriate about these titles? They don't have any porn or such...

     27 October 2001, 05:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
xX_ZoMBiE_Xx  Account Info
(Web Page)

actually, i had some porn on teh calculator, it was just a few jpg someone converted with tigry img thing... assembly does strange things my friend

     29 October 2001, 20:24 GMT


Dug Wars
SHEENmaster  Account Info
(Web Page)

We cannot loose drugwars. It is a testament to our unix programming forefathers makeing wonderfull games on awefull systems. It's like nethack, moria, and trek. We cannot loose them.

     27 October 2001, 15:11 GMT

Re: Dug Wars
acr34  Account Info
(Web Page)

Agree

     27 October 2001, 16:08 GMT


Re: Re: Dug Wars
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

TI won't listen to our opinions though...

     27 October 2001, 19:43 GMT

Re: Dug Wars
paul248  Account Info
(Web Page)

am i the only one who hates it when people say loose instead of lose?

     28 October 2001, 05:13 GMT


Re: Re: Dug Wars
Aaron Povolish  Account Info

No at all, people need to learn to type correctly.

     28 October 2001, 16:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
lord_nightrose Account Info
(Web Page)

no at all... hmm.

     30 October 2001, 21:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
jeff verkoeyen
(Web Page)

Lol, that's kindof funny!

-Jeff(raging flame)

     3 November 2001, 06:55 GMT

Re: Dug Wars
Peter Martijn Kuipers  Account Info

Hmm, I don't know,
should a game continue to exist because of sentimentality, while it is actually not really
appropriate?

I think not, but that's just my opinion.

     28 October 2001, 07:38 GMT

Re: Dug Wars
aksuur

1: Loose is spelled Lose.
2: Drugwars is about dealing drugs. There is a REASON why schools ban such programs.
3: Testament? I'm not gonna even say anything about that.

     28 October 2001, 21:52 GMT


Re: Re: Dug Wars
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

1. Schools don't give a damn f**k about calc games.
2. This is just a game.
3. If you think the game is inapropriate, then don't load it onto your calc (author tells you about the game in the readme, if you don't read it, then it's your problem) and rave about it!

Simple huh?

     29 October 2001, 01:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
lalu

I don't know whether schools care about calc games or not, but TI sure does, as it has so responsibly demonstrated. And of course (most) parents care.

     29 October 2001, 05:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
no_one_2000_  Account Info

Teachers DO care about the games and other material that goes on the calculators. At our school, they do. They check them every now and then. They don't particually mind games, it's just anything with bad material, such as porn or bad words.

     30 October 2001, 01:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

Come on, what kind of porn can you put on your calc?

     31 October 2001, 00:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
jeff verkoeyen
(Web Page)

haven't you heard of the jpeg converters?

     3 November 2001, 06:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info
(Web Page)

Small resolution and 4 colors comparing to 1024x768+ and 16+bit doesn't make any sense.

     4 November 2001, 01:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Dug Wars
JupiterHAL9000  Account Info
(Web Page)

In my school, if you are caught playing any kind of game in class or study hall, your calculator will be taken away (a week sometimes, depending on the teacher). Teachers will also deleate games like drugwars. This is legal in a private school because you sign away your right of privacy to go there. I don't know what other schools do because I've always been in a private school.

     9 November 2001, 22:08 GMT

Re: Dug Wars
David Phillips  Account Info
(Web Page)

Umm, since when are good UNIX programs games? I use UNIX and like systems (Linux and FreeBSD) on a daily basis, and none of the games you mention are among the programs I use. Good tools like make, grep, etc., are useful, games generally are not.

     29 October 2001, 10:02 GMT


Re: Dug Wars
Jonah Cohen  Account Info
(Web Page)

Actually, Drugwars was a DOS game made in the early 80's by John E. Dell. I don't know where you got the idea that it was originally for Unix...

     31 October 2001, 03:43 GMT


Re: Re: Dug Wars
Bryan Kaufman  Account Info

I personally don't like drug Wars, nor do I disagree with people having it, but Ticalc.org has every right to not want it on their site. If you want it, just go get it from the maker, or from another site if you like it so much. as for porn, there's not much you can put on an 83+, but as for the higher systems, they have smaller pixels, so porn isn't out of the question. I personally think that pornography is gratuitous, but like I said, if you want porn and drugs, either go to California, or get it from another site.

     2 November 2001, 17:52 GMT


Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
RKSer123
(Web Page)

I missed something what is TI recalling that has to do with CDs?

     7 November 2001, 02:57 GMT

Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
acr34  Account Info
(Web Page)

Why must they be screened at all?

Anyway, with my record upload wait I have 28 days and counting.

Alex

     27 October 2001, 16:07 GMT

Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
alysher Account Info
(Web Page)

or better yet..... upload the said files to a seperate directory, say to be exazimened(sp)have us the users screen them and after so many good points or bad points it is either moved or deleted off the archive
if u put a disclaimer in said directory to the effect that the files may or may not be offencive and the users that choose to download said file are on their own, it would be our opinions as to wether or not the said files were added to the archives permently and the staff wouldn't have as much to do

     28 October 2001, 18:03 GMT


Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Bryan Kaufman  Account Info

I agree that the screening process is a great idea. But then again, while they're doing it, they should also eliminate the programs that don't work. We've all gotten them before. If they're going to do that, they should get rid of those, duplicates, and even old versions. I think that most reasonable would agree to that. Profanity is okay though, people can handle it, but games like Drug Wars and Pimp Quest should be eliminated at the least.

     30 October 2001, 18:26 GMT

Re: Re: Re: ticalc.org Downtime
Kevin Kofler
(Web Page)

Also, for the TI-89/92+, there are 2 or 3 kernel-dependent games (I can recall Sor3 and Rain) which have slipped into the TI-89 Assembly Games folder. They should be in TI-89 Assembly Games (DoorsOS). And there are a few programs for various calculators which have been submitted into Amiga Utilities by mistake (presumably because it's the first alphabetically and therefore the default choice).

     31 October 2001, 06:01 GMT


PimpQuest
SpeakerForTheDead Account Info

I was crushed when I realized PimpQuest was gone! Perhaps eliminating all of the "inappropriate" games wasn't the best course of action. What about setting up a ratings panel that gives ESBR (is that right?) ratings to each game. We could label several as inappropriate for younger adults. But the only programs that I believe need to be booted are the ones that don't work.

     22 August 2002, 14:34 GMT

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