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83Dev Program Beta Released
Posted by Eric on 23 March 2001, 01:36 GMT

Rob Mitchelmore sent me word of an interesting new project he's working on: his own PC-side editor for TI-83 BASIC, called 83Dev. Judging by the screenshots, Rob's program looks a lot easier to use than the TI-Graph Link software. It also has many cool features like code highlighting and label management. So...go check out the beta and be sure to give him some suggestions for future versions. Looks promising!

 


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Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Shaun  Account Info

Huh? Now don't get me wrong or anything but if its BASIC then you could just use VTI or the calc itself. But I think it is a very good idea, if the size is not to big.

Oh yeah First Comment!
:P

     23 March 2001, 01:49 GMT

Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Binky  Account Info
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It's almost like Shermco Studio downloadable from Ticalc & Cahal Tech. Very nice program coming!

http://www.cahaltech.com

     23 March 2001, 04:15 GMT

Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
PolarD  Account Info

good idea, ugly as crap GUI

     24 March 2001, 03:14 GMT

Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
PolarD  Account Info

good idea, ugly as crap GUI
oh yeah, no MAC program, what the hell is wrong with you people, MAC's rule!

     24 March 2001, 03:15 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Robert Mohr  Account Info

...me thinks i sees a new survey coming up...

     24 March 2001, 04:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Rob Mitchelmore  Account Info
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My only Mac is an ancient one, and I never got very good at programming it. I'll do one for Mac - but only if U don't mind it being a monochrome Hypercard stack :)

--

Rob

     24 March 2001, 23:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Vejita  Account Info
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Hey, don't dis them entirely :) I first leared Pascal, my initial stint at programming on a lovely Apple IIc....the suckers were funny. Bang em once to turn off the noise....bang em again, and you lose network connnections!

Have to fix both the network connection and printer jam everyday to print my code....haha.

-Corey

     25 March 2001, 18:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Rob Mitchelmore  Account Info
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Hey, I'm not dissing Macs. I like macs a lot! I'm just not very good at programming them. I too learnt Pascal on my Mac SE/30. :)

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Rob

     25 March 2001, 22:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
GavinO  Account Info
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The top-of-the line Mac, the G4 SMP, was blown away by a stripped-down version of the Dream Machine 2K (One PIII was taken out, the other was was downclocked by half, and a lot of memory was removed) I think I'll stick with my PC.

     25 March 2001, 18:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
beanie1213  Account Info
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Damn straight! You'd have to PAY me to get me to start using my Mac SE again. (You'd have to fix it too :). Besides, the Mac GraphLinks are next to impossible to find unless you order them straight from TI.

     28 March 2001, 07:56 GMT


Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
tigren  Account Info
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I believe that the only way this program would actually be usefull is if you could program basic programs QUICKLY- like have super-duper fast hot-keys to all the commands, so with a little practice, you could make programs with a lot less pain-in-the-ass on-calc programmin (even though with practice you can get pretty quick at that...)

joel_nye@mailcity.com

     24 March 2001, 08:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
arinwaycoder  Account Info
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Yeah, I know, it would be nice if you could set certain programming strings as hotkeys or menu commands. It's pretty annoying when you have to go back cut and paste over and over again for some repetitive commands that can't be subroutiened.

     26 March 2001, 04:40 GMT

Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Robert Maresh  Account Info
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Will this cool software support HACKED TI-BASIC commands? If so, that would be really cool! I wouldn't have to send people doing the hacking on their own. For those of you who aren't familiar with it, hacking allows for 255 pics, matrices, strings, etc., in TI-BASIC.

Bob Maresh

     23 March 2001, 05:14 GMT

Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
DWedit  Account Info
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Good luck storing 255 pics :)

     23 March 2001, 21:16 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Rob Mitchelmore  Account Info
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If someone will give me syntax details and so forth I can add the extra commands to the list.

--

Thanks,
Rob

     23 March 2001, 23:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
DWedit  Account Info
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Just look at the source code to prgmCRASH. (TI82) The earliest parts are written in TI-BASIC, and it does operations with matrices named 'a' and 'b'. (lowercase letters)

A variable can have any name after hacking, you could name a picture [A] or even Str1... (You can't type these hacked names on the TIOS, but they work fine)

     24 March 2001, 06:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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255 pics would require 190 KiB. That exceeds the memory of the standard 83+, but could fit within the silver edition's archive.

     24 March 2001, 00:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Alex Hoops  Account Info

255? why do i always see that number? why not 256?

     24 March 2001, 02:48 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
PolarD  Account Info

cause your gay

     24 March 2001, 03:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Joe Pemberton  Account Info
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255=$ff=%11111111 or one byte of all ones. This is the maximum number a byte can be.

     24 March 2001, 03:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
BB  Account Info

But he makes an intersesting point. If there is a Pic0, which there is, then shouldn't it be possible to get 256 pics?

     27 March 2001, 04:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
PolarD  Account Info

83's could never hold 255, not even a 83+ can, just go ahead and buy a 89/92+
Cough, cough,
under breath,
92+
Cough, cough,
under breath
Make a mac version

     24 March 2001, 03:25 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Will Roche  Account Info

ok...
When I saw your first Mac comment above, I was perturbed but willing to overlook it in favor of moving on to more interesting posts. However, with this added desecration of good taste, I feel a need to interfere.
First of all: Apple is gay. I am a computer company. I make computers that all run on the same OS. I have most of the market for a long time (80's). This means that when computers without my OS and hardward configuration patterns start gaining a majority, I'm unwilling to adapt and make my machines and all the software that I make compatible with the new computers and the software made for them. Some people, however, still manage to deceive themselves into thinking that my company is better than the competition because my computers are made with "artistic intent"; i.e., they have 20 different colors which act to befuddle consumers into thinking that they bought a competent computer.
Second: Why would anyone pay fifty something dollars more for a TI-92 when it is no improvement whatsoever over an 89 (except for the screen size)? Many standardized tests that allow use of 89s won't accept 92s because of the qwerty keyboard layout. Also, a 92 weighs like a pound more and is therefore harder to go backpacking with.

     24 March 2001, 07:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
tigren  Account Info
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no offence, but anyone who goes backpacking with their calculator SERIOUSLY needs a life..
Im gonna be a little hypocritical here because i am a programmer, and i do program calculators, but DUDE! why dont all you freaks go and get sub-laptops with 20gig harddrives and linux, and ditch these stupid z80 5mhz systems worth about $2.50 that TI charges like 100 buks for (for a ti-83plus at least)?!? Some of you people are genius programmers, and could be out there actually making some MONEY with some big software company, instead of spending hours programming a little pissy calculator in assembler?
lol im extremely hypocritical- ive made games too, but the only reason is because it is fun to show my friends at school what i can do- but really, some of you people get way into all this stuff... just go do something useful!

joel_nye@mailcity.com

     24 March 2001, 08:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Shaun  Account Info

For one thing, a lot of the programmers here, (I think), are somewhat young to be making loads of money writing programs. I am mildly good at C but am only 13! I don't think what your saying is suitable to ALL of the Genius programmers.

     24 March 2001, 19:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Eric Greening  Account Info
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I know some one who is 16 and getting $25 dollars an hour at some animation firm in canada. So, you're never too young to start getting money, considering you know what you're talking about.

     24 March 2001, 20:45 GMT

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depleateduranium  Account Info

i used to know someone like that during my sophomore year of highschool(im a junior, EVILDEAD89 Rules!!!), who everyone in Graphic Arts called scquirel, dont ask me why, who could program in unix, VB, C++, C, and best in Java. the company he was working for, some semiconductor company, thought he was so good that they took him out of high and right into college under full scholarship and then to work full time for them.

     24 March 2001, 23:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Matt Hockenheimer Account Info

I can top that: I make $30 an hour doing computer programming at 17 working part-time at a small software company (And for them, I'm a bargain, as I get absolutely zero benefits, and program in the less-then-common language Delphi, which in my opinion is the best language on the planet). I can make $25 doing contract work for various customers of my little company (1 person, me, registed as a ltd.)

     25 March 2001, 04:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
blitter Account Info

First off: Seeing your comment makes me ashamed to be a Mac user, as it's a disgrace to the modern Mac community. Real Mac users don't go around spamming message boards with demands for Mac versions. If it's meant to happen, it will. Posting "make a mac version" left and right will make a Mac port about as likely as an Evil Dead game for the 89 (what the heck is that, anyway?)
Secondly: Give the guy credit for what he's already accomplished. This program isn't even released yet, but the screenshots and the overall interface (please refrain from your evangelistic comments) is really impressive. If you want a program like this to be on the Mac and have 92+ BASIC support, well darn it, learn freaking C and get going! Programming a Mac is not the hardest thing in the world. I suggest picking up a copy of "Mac Programming for Dummies" as that really helped me out. Going this route is a lot more productive than whining about it.

My 2% of $1

     24 March 2001, 20:31 GMT


Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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Of course, if you're willing to spend just a few bucks more, you can buy an 86 and have access to trillions of variable names.

     24 March 2001, 00:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
PolarD  Account Info

or u can upgrade and not be a cheap bastard and buy a Ti-92+, or better yet, a Handspring Visor or some sort of Palm OS device. Ever since I got my Visor I have not used my 92+ or 83+ much.

     24 March 2001, 03:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
Nick Carlson

Hey, not everyone here's of the nerd-with-disposable-income set. One gets what one affords.

     25 March 2001, 05:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
arinwaycoder  Account Info
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Yep, until I finally got my 89, I used various 83+ I borrowed from my High School (advanced math classes are great). Anyway, I plan on keeping the one I have now until the end of this semester when I graduate.

     26 March 2001, 04:47 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
beanie1213  Account Info
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Y'know, it's weird. Ever since I bought my Visor, my batteries in my 83+ seem to last 20 times longer! (I go through a set of alkalines in my handheld in a week, though :)

     28 March 2001, 08:01 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 83Dev Program Beta Released
beanie1213  Account Info
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A GraphLink program for a PalmOS device would be handy.... anyone up for a challenge?

     28 March 2001, 08:03 GMT

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