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POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Posted by Eric on 2 October 2000, 02:27 GMT

I was feeling kinda guilty about taking over Nick Disabato's spot as news editor, so I figured I'd let him take over my role and be a guest editor for this month's Newsletter (actually, not really; in actuality I was busy doing other things, but that's another story). Anyway. Nick made a few blunders on the newsletter and made it a little short on content (what a slacker), but I have to admit it was a fine job on short notice. Anyway, go read the newsletter if you're not already subscribed.

Last month's POTM results can be found here. Congratulations to the winners. Also, the new POTM vote is up right here.

 


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Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released (ยกprimer comentario!)
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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We need a new nomination system. I seriously doubt that only 5 programs were worthy of POTM.

     2 October 2000, 02:55 GMT

Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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#include "the_usual_potm_complaints.h"

Feel free to modify the above to correspond to your chosen langauge/compiler.

It's 1:45 AM on a school night and I'm up writing some C code with tomorrow's homework still pending; I doubt that there's any use in reposting the same monthly complaints that we're all already familiar with.

Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with the results of last month's vote, even though they don't correspond with my votes too well.

Well, there is one new point to nitpick: "You may select 1 programs in any combination of categories you like" doesn't make much sense, either in syntax or in sematics. There's an adjective-noun agreement problem with the singular "1" and the plural "programs", as well as a logic error in denoting that one program can be in "any combination of categories." And the program names/categories should probably be made into links.

Well, maybe we'll finally see Tezxas recognized as the technological achievement it is this time, if that's any consolation.

     2 October 2000, 07:54 GMT


Re: Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Grammar Nazi  Account Info

This is the language gestapo. We have noted the mistakes and have added this site to our list of incomprehensible ravings.

I reckon POTM should have something done to it.

Grammar Nazi

     2 October 2000, 19:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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"Gestapo"? "Nazi"?

Godwin's Law invoked. You lose.
http://www.science.uva.nl/ ~mes/jargon/g/godwinslaw.html (remove the space from that URL)

(Yes, that was shamelessly stolen from Slashdot - I've been waiting for a chance to use it.)

     2 October 2000, 21:54 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Grammar Nazi  Account Info

I wasn't aware there was an argument going... I sort of thought that everyone agreed that something should happen, just there aren't any ideas for what. Besides, I couldn't very well mention the thinkpol with a username like mine...

I was going to post a fake page saying that eventually someone will quote something from slashdot in an attempt at humour but I'm too lazy to set up a website just for that -- I wouldn't want you all to find out who I really am now, would I? I might be locked up for my political views on grammar.

Grammar Nazi

     3 October 2000, 20:41 GMT

Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
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WOW! What a selection!

And here's a somewhat weird quote from the poll that apparently nobody has noticed yet:

> You may select 1 programs in any combination of categories you like

     2 October 2000, 09:50 GMT

Another nit (Isn't nitpicking fun?)
Jason Schoenfelder  Account Info

I found another mistake in the POTM voting page.

"Select which Miscellaneous/Computer Utilities programs from this list would you rate the best?"

For this specific category, there is the error of redundant nouns. You cannot write "utilities programs" as if it were one noun.

Also, the rest of the sentence (and even in other categories) is grammatically flawed. It starts with a verb followed by the object (i.e. it's an imperative sentence), but the other verb is before its subject, and the sentence ends with a "?" (i.e. it's an interrogative sentence).

The sentence should read:
"Select which Miscellaneous/Computer Utilities from this list you would rate the best."
OR
"Which Miscellaneous/Computer Utilities from this list would you rate the best?"

- an incorrigible nitpicker

     2 October 2000, 11:37 GMT

Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Frank Schoep  Account Info
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JOY! Since there's only one Windows/PC choice, I'm already a POTM winner (blushes in embarassment).

Thanks for all the votes :-),
Frank

     2 October 2000, 13:54 GMT


Re: Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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Last I checked, the system no longer works like that - winners could all be from a single category, if that's what the voters select. You're not guaranteed (indeed, not likely) to see a winner in every category.

     2 October 2000, 22:03 GMT

Re: POTM Up, Newsletter Released
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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"You may select 1 programs in any combination of categories you like"

I'll bet that everyone who votes puts all their votes in the same category.

     2 October 2000, 18:46 GMT

suggested new wording for POTM
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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Select one of the following to waste your vote:
[ ]TItanium MultiMedia 83 v1.0.0
[ ]The Quest III - Chapter 1 - v1.1b

OR choose one of these programs for the 89
[ ]Baseball 89 v0.91
[ ]Sebastian's Games Package
[ ]Tezxas ZX Spectrum Emulator v2.1

If you have not used any of the previous 3 programs, click the back button because you have no reason to participate in this dumb poll.

     2 October 2000, 18:54 GMT


Re: suggested new wording for POTM
Nick Carlson

Oh, that's just mean. Not all of us own (or want to own, for that matter) a TI-89.

     8 October 2000, 18:20 GMT


Re: Re: suggested new wording for POTM
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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I don't own a TI-89 either (just an 83 and an 86). I was pointing out a flaw in the system: it almost always favors the 89.

     9 October 2000, 17:35 GMT

Just End It Already!
Ed Fry  Account Info
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Ticalc.org, Please Just Kill off the POTM! It's got to the point where nobody cares, nobody wants to vote on it, it's not getting any better, and all it is doing is wasting bandwidth anymore. it would be better off dead and remembered for it's former glory then left to continue in it's current state.

You can beat a dead horse until its in pieces, but beating it isn't going to make it miraclisouly rise up from the dead and start pulling the plow.

     3 October 2000, 00:32 GMT

Re: Just End It Already!
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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Good idea for new survey: Should POTM continue?

     3 October 2000, 04:36 GMT


Re: Just End It Already!
Grammar Nazi  Account Info

You have been added to the hit list. Expect swift destruction for your abuse of the English language.

> Please Just Kill off the POTM!
This is suspect.

> and all it is doing is wasting bandwidth anymore.
Where did that last word come from?

> it would be better off
Sentences begin with a capital letter.

> You can beat a dead horse until its in pieces
Surely you mean it's?

> miraclisouly
Not only bad grammar but spelling as well...

Grammar Nazi

     3 October 2000, 20:48 GMT

Re: Re: Just End It Already!
Ed Fry  Account Info
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Like I care.

     4 October 2000, 05:46 GMT

Re: Re: Just End It Already!
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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Wee dont kair. Weer calkyulater programers, knot inglsh teechers. Watt diferins dew a fyu speling erorz maik.

     4 October 2000, 07:31 GMT


Re: Re: Just End It Already!
Zeljko Juric  Account Info
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Mr. Grammar,

If you are so happy while correcting grammary errors, please download my documentation for the TIGCC Library, and correct errors in it. I promise to you that it is really full of grammary errors, as English is not my native language, and my knowledge of it is so far from perfect. Correcting errors in it will surely make you happy for next few months.

     4 October 2000, 21:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Just End It Already!
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
(Web Page)

It's not as full of them as you think, Zeljko. And anyway, who cares?

     4 October 2000, 23:15 GMT

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