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Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Posted by Nick on 6 August 2000, 22:50 GMT

Advanced Text Editor v.5 BetaMath is fun!
Jonah "I Just Can't Get Enough" Cohen has released a crazy (dare I say "insane?!") new program called Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta for the 86. It looks very nice, but of course my view on it is tainted considering the fact that Jonah interrogated me for several hours one night a few weeks back on what the acronym should spell out. That was irksome, but the program shouldn't be! Looking at the screenshot, its versatility looks quite nice, allowing for a great range of editing options and all that fun stuff. It doesn't allow text styles, which is really trivial on a calculator-based text editor anyway. The lack of frivolous features and bells & whistles on this program leads to simplicity and efficiency in design, and that's a much stronger point in my opinion.

Oh, yeah, and this doesn't even need to be in the headline, since it happens so often :P, but the delicious Patrick Davidson has released Phoenix v7.02 for the 89, 92, and the 92 Plus. Man, no wonder Patrick is the most downloaded author: he brings out 318024172384 releases of the same program every week! :P

 


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Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Robert Mohr  Account Info
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What acronym?

     6 August 2000, 23:09 GMT

Re: Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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Advanced Text Editor == ATE. HAR HAR HAR THIS IS THE SOUND OF MIRTH.

--BlueCalx

     6 August 2000, 23:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Robert Mohr  Account Info
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Ok....

     6 August 2000, 23:32 GMT


Re: Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Jonah Cohen  Account Info
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It's a long story. Originally, ATE was going to be called Word86, but I decided that that was probably a bad name for an editor, since MS Word is not exactly a word-processor to aspire to, plus the fact that ATE does totally different things and is technically a text editor and not a word processor. I also considered other names such as WOMBAT (Wombat Opens Many Boring Analectic Texts), but eventually decided that Advanced Text Editor, with a pronounceable and not overly weird acronym ATE, was the best choice. All of these choices were developed and/or discussed via AIM and ICQ with Nick, Kirk Meyer, and Scott Noveck.

I know that the word "ate" has nothing to do with editing text, but it's pronouceable and concise. Plus chances are that not too many people will know what analectic texts are :-)

     7 August 2000, 02:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Gatorball7  Account Info

gosh, Jonah, your program is soooo buggy. I ran it about three different times and all three times due to pressing either the store button, the prgm button or the 2nd button, it crashed and caused me to take out all the batteries to get it to work again. Next time try to realease a program that doesnt lock up everytime you run it plz.

     7 August 2000, 04:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Jonah Cohen  Account Info
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I haven't experienced anything like you're describing in all the testing I've done. If you or anyone else can consistently get ATE to crash or mess up in any way, _please_ email me and give me details so I can generate the bug myself and fix it. Be sure that the problem isn't something else on your calc that has already corrupted memory though, since some buggy programs can mess up basic operations on the calc without crashing directly.

     7 August 2000, 04:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Jonah Cohen  Account Info
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Upon downloading the zip that was uploaded, I see exactly what the problem is. I wasn't experiencing this during testing, so I think the file might have simply gotten corrupted in the zipping. I'll look into it this evening and release v.52 as soon as I can.

     7 August 2000, 17:21 GMT

Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
uNF Master! Account Info
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Wh00t!!! I love writing up spiffy texts on 86!

Good job Jonah!

---
uNF

     6 August 2000, 23:10 GMT

Re: Advanced Text Editor v.5 Beta
Danny  Account Info
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jonah, you are one reet coder my friend.

     6 August 2000, 23:48 GMT

Top downloaded author/
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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Ironically, it turns out that I am not the most downloaded author any more (for the current week, at least).

Instead, the most downloaded author for this week (since the counters start over on Sunday, this really means the most for the one day) is Erik J. Beerlage, whose TI-83 BASIC Misc Program "0Desktop v2.3" is not only the most downloaded program this week, but has been downloaded more times this week than the next 6 programs combined, and also single-handedly accounts for slightly more than one third of all downloads for the TI-83.

     7 August 2000, 00:52 GMT

Re: Top downloaded author/
Matthew McLean  Account Info

So what was wrong with Phoenix 7.01?

     7 August 2000, 03:05 GMT


Re: Re: Top downloaded author/
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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It actually contained 2 problems:

1) Some of the time (mostly only in the hardest difficulty modes) some of the solid spinning enemies would become invincible.

2) There was a memory corrupting bug due to the super-bosses trying to fire before they were on-screen, resulting in attempting to draw sprites with negative X-coordinates. In recent versions, this mostly only caused the screen to be corrupted on exit; in some older versions (and maybe 7.01 also) this caused the calculator to crash. This bug has actually existed since version 0.70 of Phoenix which was released more than two years ago. But now, it's gone forever!

     7 August 2000, 03:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Top downloaded author/
Matthew McLean  Account Info

Sounds good.

     7 August 2000, 03:21 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Top downloaded author/
EvanMath

Actually, for me, the solid spinning guys never became invincible.... They just lasted about 5 minutes of constant shooting. Maybe the invincibility wore off?

Hmm.... I never saw the screen corrupted before this version... And it hardly ever froze up.

     7 August 2000, 16:26 GMT


Re: Top downloaded author/
JaggedFlame Account Info

You know, you're right. Something fishy (Get it? Fish? ATE? Har har har... OK, never mind) is going on in the most downloaded files page. A few weeks ago, a guy made about five programs and uploaded them to ticalc.org on the same day, and what happened was that each of his five programs were tied for first place with the exact same amount of downloads (I think it was two hundred and something).

     7 August 2000, 14:26 GMT


Re: Re: Top downloaded author/
EvanMath

Hmmm... Can you say downloading your own program over and over?

     9 August 2000, 01:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Top downloaded author/
monoman  Account Info
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downloading your own program over and over

     10 August 2000, 23:13 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Top downloaded author/
JaggedFlame Account Info

I can say "extremely stupid and desperate"...

     11 August 2000, 03:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Top downloaded author/
acr34  Account Info
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the CGI prevents that. Besides, who would waste the time to download the same thing 200 times?

     12 August 2000, 16:28 GMT

What if
Necrosis Account Info

<rant>

What if this program was used to write a document about how to bomb the court houses, could the author be held responsable for the actions of the user? Could the author of this program be sued by the government for writing the software that was used to create a document detailing how to create an atomic bomb that some 12 year old followed through with?

This post is about the recent ruling against Napster. Come on fellas we need to write our congressmen. We need to yell and scream. If we do not, we could be responsable for the users of our code.
</rant>

Oh yea, this program has a bug ;> Locked up my calc. Looks pretty nice though. Keep up the good work.

     7 August 2000, 17:15 GMT

Help
Jeff Sanders  Account Info

Hello. I installed ATE on my 86 and when I ran it, it eventually locked up and I had to turn off my calc. I read that there is a bug in it. Well, my calc won't turn on. I took out the batteries (normal ones) and put them back in. Didn't work. I need some help. Anyone have any suggestions. Maybe I should take out the little circle battery (name?). If so, how do I go about getting it out. Help!

     7 August 2000, 18:24 GMT


Re: Help
Robin Kay  Account Info
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It's called a Lithium Battery or sometimes simply a Backup Battery. And yes, you probably should try removing it.

--Robin Kay--

     7 August 2000, 21:54 GMT


Re: Re: Help
kennethdj69  Account Info

and if that doesn't work, open up the calculator and leave it there for while. when you put it back together, it should work. i say this because it happened to me once. after taking out all batteries (including the lithium backup battery), my calc still wouldn't work, so i got pissed and took the batteries out and took the back off. when i put it back together, it was fine.

     9 August 2000, 07:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Help
Ron!  Account Info
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Umm, no. Ok, anyone who is dumb enough to take the back cover off their calc because a program crashed it should be taken out back and shot. Read: DO NOT TAKE OFF THE COVER! If it was a program that crashed the calc, you only need to take out the backup battery by unscrewing that screw in the battery case, and your four main AAA. The only time you should EVER take off that cover, is like, if you messed it up in the first place, or are modifying your calc, which I would not recomend doing if you can't even recover from a crash.

p.s. Try hitting on, then if nothing happens, try hitting the 2nd button, then holding the up arrow.

(:

~Ronald!

     10 August 2000, 19:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Help
kennethdj69  Account Info

that happened when i had only had the calc for about a week and didn't know diddley squat about it. i was young and naive.... <stupidity> but now i know that all you have to do is go out and buy a new one every time your calculator crashes. haha! </stupidity> anyway, just thought i'd say something in my defense.

     12 August 2000, 22:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Help
Mayo Jordanov  Account Info
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You don't need to take the calc apart. Just make sure the calc is off (bah, has to be cause of next step :)), take all batteries out (including the backup bat.) and wait for about 1 minute while all conductors empty out OR just take small screwdriver and connect the + and - contacts on the battery holder (_HOLDER_ !!NOT!! the battery <- doing this on battery will kill the battery).

     11 August 2000, 08:05 GMT


Re: What if
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
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This is ridiculous. Napster's only purpose is to trade music, while you can't say that the purpose of a text editor is to build a bomb.

Go sue all the knife-making companies in the world.

     8 August 2000, 21:38 GMT

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