Go Doors Team! Great Job!

First comment!

I have nothing to say but "Ha, the next comment!!"...then again maybe I do...DOORS is great! That's all, bye.

I really like Doors. I could never get it to work right until v0.95, now I must get 0.96. Good job, guys!

DoorsOS 0.96 doesnt seem to work.
The program DoorsOs is needed to install the kernel but those french people have not included it for some reason.

Maybe its because my calc is brand new.

Your ones are old and sucky.

DOORS is Best (first one)

For anyone out there using the DoorsOS kernel, I suggest you try TEOS instead. TEOS functions _exactly_ like Doors and is completely compatible, but is open source. It also includes a new, open source version of graphlib, rewritten from scratch, that runs as much as twice as fast as the old one did.

There shouldn't be any noticable difference between Doors and TEOS except for TEOS's increased speed, and since it's open you're much less likely to have problems with bugs and more up to date versions

For more, click the "Web Site" link above, or see http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fil einfo/116/11658.html [be sure to remove the space in that URL!)

or UniversalOS... I think what we need here is a merge of all three shells :-)

yea Universal shell v1.10 is great. I can run ALL ASM programs on my 92+, HW2, AMS 2.03. Still with DOORSOS i get the black bar on the top.

I really like Universal OS because you can archive libs. Because of this, i don't have to keep a seperate directory that contains all of the backup libs stored in Archive. Universal OS can't run some programs like Bomberboy or the orginial version of Phoenix.

so why is teos better?

Whenever I install TEOS,I get an address error every time I try to run a program (except doors explorer =]. Both UOS and Doors work fine. It is probably because I don't have the correct libraries (TEOS seems to have its own). Either that, or something is wrong with my calc.

When Doors OS comes out with archived library support, it will be the ultimate OS.

personally, I'll only call DoorsOS the "ultimate OS" when I don't have to constantly uninstall it whenever I want to do math (well, also when it uninstalls correctly 99.9% of the time, instead of screwing up my calc and causing a crash anyways; that'll be when I call it the ultimate OS...)

What exactly goes wrong when using math and doors? I have had no problems when doing math and having doors on except when I had frogger on my calc. Do you have frogger? Maybe this is the problem, or maybe not. I hope this has helped you in someway

I get those math problems too. They're hard to discribe exactly. They cover a wide range of the algerbra, but I usually notice it in the SOLVE function. It usually returns some wierd error. There are also many other wierd things. Once in the Y= menu, all the y1=, y2=, ect... became y with a suberscript 1 following it, like y to the 1st power. Then when I pressed [Diamond][F3] (Graph) I got some illegal address error or something. Then I couldn't get out of the graph screen, but the window values screen would appear. DoorsOS also turned many of my asm programs into strings once.

I don't know if this is doors or something else, but it isn't frogger(I don't have it).

But does it run the doors explorer from shift-on? I always liked that feature of doors, and I'm kinda reluctant to be stuck with the var-link menu just to have an "open" kernel.

Btw, this is Steve's first news item so I just have to say Go Steve! You can beat Nick's 150+ news items! :P

yes it uses Shift+ON... but for shells that don't, you can just create a kbdprgm:

kbdprgm1()
Prgm
doors()
EndPrgm

and use diamond 1, and it's just as easy.

182 at last count.

--BlueCalx

Geek!
Heh. I can't stop saying that after reading your Bio, Nick... :)

I'm a geek, but the bio reads "Dork!," so I don't know which one you mean :-)

--BlueCalx

Nah. Foiled again ;)
Uh. Is it alright if I say Dork! now?

Yes.
Yes it certainly is.

--BlueCalx

Thanks :)
Dork!
Hey, that made me feel better - I think I've just discovered the reason people call other people "Dork!" :)

Just though you would like to know I loved your Master Mind program for the 86 Jonah! Everybody knows calculators are _great_ for long car trips. That is if you aren't driving, then again....

amicek

and then there's that crap game that's on ti-fr right now... don't programmers have anything better to do???

My answer there would be "guess not"

amicek

Yah, I told Scott about it earlier, and he still didn't know about it! I'm surprised, TEOS should get a little more fame.

Supports:

Archived Libs
Shift+On
Full Compatibility with Doors Programs
Better Grayscale on HW2 calcs (way less flicker than the regular doorsos one, plus smaller/faster and open source... just make sure you send the HW2 version of graphlib if you have HW2)

Amazing kernel, I'm surprised so few people know about it. The advances the Doors team has made is great, but TEOS is still my favorite!

BTW< way to go with the 89 emulation, awesome stuff there

And I believe, Tom Corvazier was doing the 89 emu stuff... I still wonder what sf2 would be like on ams v2.03 (hehe, all the chars on at same time, room to spare, crash protection, good grief!)

L8ters!

-Trailblazer

>Supports:
>
>Archived Libs

This will be added in the next DoorsOS release.

>(...)
>Better Grayscale on HW2 calcs (way less flicker than >the regular doorsos one, plus smaller/faster and open >source... just make sure you send the HW2 version of >graphlib if you have HW2)

Hmm.. It can't be *better*, because TEOS and doorsos use the same grayscale routine :-)
BTW, for thos who haven't noticed, the source of graphlib is available in DoorsOS too (In the developper version)

Hmm.. It can't be *better*, because TEOS and doorsos use the same grayscale routine :-)

Yea... that's what I thought. But for some reason, the version before this one of Doors OS (which has always been my favorite, but now I'm not sure), had some problems with grayscale in BoulderDash, Tetris, and a few other games I can't remember. Well... I'll have to try this version and see how it turns out.

- Jeff

Oops... I'm sorry, my fault. I neglected to send gray7lib the time I got the flashy problems... now everything works fine. Now to try the new 0.96

- Jeff

Well, they're not *quite* identical - his can detect whether the calc is an 89 or 92+, and use a special (faster) 89 routine many times (less flicker). When I stuck that code in graphlib for you, the RAM Call to determine the calc/ROM version wasn't implemented yet.

And your graphlib source may be open now, too, but it doesn't even come close to the TEOS graphlib's much, much faster performance and clean code. . .

>Well, they're not *quite* identical - his can detect >whether the calc is an 89 or 92+, and use a special
>(faster) 89 routine many times (less flicker).

I do the same (if I remember well :) )

>When I stuck that code in graphlib for you, the RAM >Call to determine the calc/ROM version wasn't >implemented yet.

The RAM CALL to determine the calculator exists since ... a long long time :)
However it's true that the one for the ROM version is recent.

>And your graphlib source may be open now, too, but it >doesn't even come close to the TEOS graphlib's much, >much faster performance and clean code. . .

That's true, but anyway we'll merge source codes for libraries in order to have only one version of each lib.

Say, Xavier, are you ever on ICQ?? Do you still have the same ICQ number??? I've never seen you on-line ever. Could you authorize me so I can add you to my list?? I think others that use ICQ as well could help you get bugs in DoorsOS to you faster than e-mail. Think over about this.

Wow -- an open-source kernel (maybe I can pursuade Xavier Vassor to open up Doors...). I need to learn about some of that stuff, and what better way than by seeing how it was done?

Although Doors is a cooler name IMHO.