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3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Posted by Nick on 27 March 2000, 17:29 GMT

3DLib DemoOur friends at Deep Brain Activity are at it again! This time, they've created a fantastically amazing new library for the 92 Plus called 3DLib Demo. As the name implies, this is simply a demo - but the things it can do are pretty neat, as evidenced in that little screenshot you see over there. Yum. Eye candy.

At any rate, this (somewhat accurately) renders three-dimensional polygonal "stuff." There are demos included that render a plane (as seen in the screenshot), a ball (as seen on DBA's news page), a cone, and others. You can also convert .ASC files you may have sitting around from a little graphics app I like to call 3D Studio Max into a usable format for this renderer. Isn't that fantastic? I thought so. Now I have a use for this copy of 3D Studio MAX R3 that's sitting on my computer ;-) This has been tested on a 92 Plus with AMS v2.03. To run the demos, you need DoorsOS installed. If you have any further questions, you can email Kty and Fred.

 


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Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Jeremiah Lindsay  Account Info

Wow! I love it-- can't wait to see it for the 89.

btw first Comment!

     27 March 2000, 17:33 GMT

Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
amicek  Account Info
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I can't believe it! I didn't know these calculators had the proccessing power to render even this kind of 3-D stuff! This is some Deep Brain Activity!

amicek

     27 March 2000, 21:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Max Seckel  Account Info
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check out an 89 program called Battle Alpha...its only a demo, but it looks awsome

     27 March 2000, 22:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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That looks awesome, but it was recently re-released with an "old" copy of the source - once again, an author "lost" the new source and doesn't want to rewrite it. bah - wish I could write an engine like that

     28 March 2000, 03:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Frederic Merizen  Account Info

Have a look at the motorbike racing game called "no second prize" on the atari ste if you can and you will be amazed how powerful a mere 68k actually is.

     28 March 2000, 13:08 GMT


Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Gohan Account Info
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AWE MAN! I hope someone will port it to the 89 soon! please someone dooo!

     28 March 2000, 02:52 GMT

Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Grant Elliott  Account Info
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Finally! I was wondering when they were going to release this. So when can I play Zelda 64? Just kidding... (But that would be awesome...)

Very impressive. That's all I can say. Excellent job. When can we expect this for the 89?

     27 March 2000, 17:42 GMT

Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Philip Ringsmuth  Account Info
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Now this is a major step up for things in the TI community. I can see this thing having greyscale in the coming months, and perhaps even some siple 3D games being developed. Now that just makes my mouth water...

-Fil and his $0.02

     27 March 2000, 21:29 GMT


Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Aaron Peterson  Account Info
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Where should I get technical info on creating computer 3d line renderer?

Games for the developers out there.

Flying windows screensaver (the starfield concept)

Early Starwars arcade game has 3 segments(3games), Fly the falcon, shoot ties, fireballs, tie prototypes;

Dodge towers and fireballs shooting turrets;

fly through valley dodging fireballs (and obsticals) and blowing up dethstar.

Spectre (Capture the flag in cars that jump and have armor and speed options)

Shoot a happy face.
(3d maze, if you see a happyface shoot it)

     28 March 2000, 10:04 GMT

Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
CircaX  Account Info
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I wish I had a 92. It makes my 83 seem, somehow, insignificant...

     27 March 2000, 22:01 GMT

Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Jason T.

Yea I know, I have an 83+, and i know how u feel. I wish that was possible for my calc.

BTW, my first time posting!!!

     27 March 2000, 23:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
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Actually, have you seen Matt Shepcar's Torus demo for the 86? That's reasonably fast, and I'm sure something similar could be done for the 83(+). Additionally, Matt's demo isn't as fast as it could be because there have been some revelations in multiplication methods since he wrote that...

The only new feature I see in this program is the filled polygons (which don't seem to be very fast) and a converter for computer file formats... otherwise the Torus demo has existed for a long time (and I believe it exists for the 89 as well).

     28 March 2000, 00:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
David Phillips  Account Info
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It's been existence for around two years, I believe. And what is really impressive about the 89's demo is that it runs at a reasonable rate inside a window in prosit!

     28 March 2000, 10:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Kty Kty  Account Info
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Just for u:
* I ported torus demo to prosit
* FGlib (or 3Dlib) sorts by Z depth about 3000 triangles per secondes and it draws around 1000 Triangles/s, so i think that's ok for now. and pretty fast.

     30 March 2000, 21:40 GMT

Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
gzon  Account Info

I have a TI-83 and I am getting a TI-92+ soon.
With all of this stuf comming out for it THE SOONER THE BETTER!!!

     28 March 2000, 00:45 GMT

Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Amalfi Marini  Account Info
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Don't be cruel ! the 83 is a acceptable calc ! well , it's better than having a casio , I think . Except for the last models , there's one out there with 1Mb of memory , step by step , etc...

     28 March 2000, 04:30 GMT


89s are better
sethj  Account Info
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You can't use 92s or 92+s on the ACT or SAT! They are very non-standard calculators. What would be cool is an 89 with an optional QWERTY keyboard that you could plug in through the linking port...

     28 March 2000, 16:00 GMT


Re: 89s are better
Adml_Ackbar(RA)
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if they had that,y you will not be able to use the keyboard on those tests. You see, they don't allow computers(their defination: a computing device with a QWERTY keyboard).

     28 March 2000, 17:47 GMT

Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Paul Schippnick  Account Info
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totally cool. Now the 1/2 mag is not enough. More memory is a must.

     27 March 2000, 22:14 GMT

Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
tom me

So, you paid thousands of dollars for that copy of 3D Studio Max 3 that's just sitting in your computer? Wow you must be a rich guy.

     27 March 2000, 22:59 GMT

Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
rob jailall

yes......of course

     27 March 2000, 23:17 GMT

Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Patrick H
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You can find 3D Studio Max R3 on many warez sites on the net, for free that is...

     27 March 2000, 23:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Amalfi Marini  Account Info
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that's reminds me about "oscar" , a little program with a huge database that have a lot of codes to regiter many sharewares !!you can register winzip and those kind of things . there are some strange codes that seems to work in almost all win98 installation . It also has a 3d studio max code ...

     28 March 2000, 04:38 GMT


Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
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Um thousands of dollars? Hundreds /might/ be in range... I just bought a highend professional 3D graphics and animation package for $180 (academic price)... and it's much better than 3D Studio MAX.

Also in case anyone cares I think you can download these types of models from www.3d-cafe.com for free. (or is it 3dcafe.com sorry i didn't test it! =) )

     28 March 2000, 00:52 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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My dad works at a company where he has access to a rather vast library of (legal) software titles. 3DS is one of them.

CorelDRAW 9 is another.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to load PHOTO-PAINT and poke around. :)

--BlueCalx

     28 March 2000, 03:11 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
akdjr  Account Info
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are there any good places on the net to learn how to use 3D studio max (obviously not everything, but the basics and such...)?

now, that demo is amazing. i can hardly wait to see what kinds of games people will make out of it... (not that i have a 92+, but i can always dream =) )

akshay

     28 March 2000, 09:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Owen Owen
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Actually, I got a full copy of 3D Studio for free by winning a drafting contest at the state fair a few years ago. It was particularly easy becuase I was the only person who entered in my category. :-)

I've opened it (it wasn't sealed) and watched the video, but had no need for it or the time to learn how to use it. I tried selling it on eBay (it got to $500) but Kinetix sent me the most vile letter I have ever seen. (Read: Ever try to sell it, even in your dreams, and we sue.) Evidently, there is some line in the contract on page 4 that says you can't sell it. Of course, since I've never used it, couldn't return it, didn't purchase it, it should be fine... but I don't really want to be sued. Oh well. It's a nifty box to look at. :)

I did manage to get rid of the 2 copies of Macromedia Director I also won on eBay. (I'm just lucky.)

Owen

     29 March 2000, 06:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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No, 3DSM is actually several thousand bucks for certain versions. It's supposedly not only a good program, but the industry standard - they've got a mini monopoly because so many companies are already locked in to using this software. There's no reason someone can't write a better OS than Windows - Linux is getting there - but it's nearly impossible to oust a standard.

     28 March 2000, 03:16 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
adam chard  Account Info
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3ds Max runs around $2000, if your lucky you can get it for $1000 with student discounts. :) It's top of the line stuff, Alias is only slightly better and it costs a whopping $30,000!!
As for the demo...It's SWEET!! I can't believe the 92's piddly little processor can handle 3-d graphics at that speed, with texture maps no less! Keep up the good work Deep brain activity!

     28 March 2000, 03:42 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Grant Elliott  Account Info
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I would recommend Rhino. The full version is $900, but you can get a 50 use demo for free at www.softseek.com Saving and such is enabled. In fact, there's no difference between the full version and the demo except the demo expires (50 uses is a lot if you use them wisely). It does surfaces very very well. (It's a NURBS modeler.) If you want an example of what you can do really quickly in Rhino, go to www.crosswinds.net/~grants3dart/ eworld.htm It only took an hour to model in Rhino and another 30 minutes to apply materials in Bryce. Bryce does materials and animations well, and it's cheap.

My 2 cents...

     28 March 2000, 03:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
Grant Elliott  Account Info
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I should point out that you need to remove the space from the URL or just click the URL link.

     28 March 2000, 04:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
MicroLITH Account Info

Unfortunately, i replied to the same comment, but I forgot to mention an interesting fact...

Recently Softimage|3D and Alias|Wavefront were combined into the product we all know as Maya. It offers a "best of both worlds" design, and costs less than both Si|3D and Alias do. The only difference is that it doesn't *quite* have the power each has on its own.

Still an interesting combination, to say the least.

     28 March 2000, 04:08 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
MicroLITH Account Info

No, the standard is Softimage|3D, which makes 3DSMax PALE in comparison. Si|3D was used in the Matrix, Star Wars: Episode 1, Jurassic Park, Independence Day, the entire show of Reboot, and most CGI effects in movies are done with Si|3D (Toy Story(2), otoh, was done by Pixar with their own software).

The animation and rendering abilities of the tool are excellent. It has the Mental Ray renderer, one of the best in existence, which gives you excellent quality of the render. To see what it can put out, watch Toonami on Cartoon Network. All of the scenes between the shows, where they demo the lineup, were done in softimage|3d. The robot is an interesting creation too. His materials look like a shiny plastic, almost real. With proper lighting and texturing, that's how good it can get.

The only limiting factor to many people having this is that a) it can only be sold to companies, per Avid's requirements, and b) it's cheapest version is $8000 (si|3d base) to $25000-$30000 (GT and Extreme). My school (North Pulaski HS in Arkansas) has 2 copies of Si|3D extreme, and what it can do is amazing. What's interesting about it, is that it held its interface when they ported it from Irix to NT, so it's a really awkward fit.

I really like working with it, and only wish that I had a copy to work with at home. Since summer vacation is coming up, maybe I can work out a deal with my teacher...

     28 March 2000, 04:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
MicroLITH Account Info

Would you happen to be using Truespace or Lightwave3D?

     28 March 2000, 04:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: 3DLib Demo Released By Deep Brain Activity
AuroraBoriales  Account Info

Hmmm.. That brings up something that i seen. There is this
software called blender(sounds weird huh?), it can do
almost all the stuff 3D studio max can do, mabye
even more.. A little hard to use though. But the thing
is that it's FREE!!! And it's also just 1.7 megs.. Shows
that all those huge 3d softwares out there could be more
efficent on both space and money.... Well. it's pretty
amazing, and get it at www.blender.nl

     29 March 2000, 02:08 GMT

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