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Florida [Casio] Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Posted by Nick on 27 February 2000, 00:17 GMT

There is an interesting article in the Washington Post regarding the State of Florida's achievement tests.
Apparently, the state issued their own (Casio) calculators for a standardized test and students were prohibited from using their own. Entering data too fast (such as 3 times 3 times 3) yielded wrong answers (such as 81). Check it out - it's quite humorous. :)

 


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Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
BaSe-2-oP  Account Info
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"State education officials don't believe overall test scores will be affected." ; hahah! How do they figure?!

     27 February 2000, 00:30 GMT

Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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They probably think that students have the common sense to know that their calculators are wrong, such as 3^3 not really equaling 81.
Unfortunately, that still affects the test scores ENOUGH, though.

--BlueCalx

     27 February 2000, 00:44 GMT


Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
ikecam  Account Info
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They calculated the probable effects on the test with a Casio calculator, which yielded a wrong answer.

HA HA, Casio sucks.

     27 February 2000, 02:31 GMT


TI RULES!!!
acr34  Account Info
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I agree, nothing beats TI (espically the ones with FLASH)
P.S. Am I the only one who knows how to change the subject? I'm getting tired of
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Casio Calculators Give Wrong Answer

     16 April 2000, 20:37 GMT

Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Jon Johnson  Account Info
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Humorous!@~? It was horrible!@~~@! Add, subtract, multiply, divide, square root, %... thats all! not even one memory! it took 3 of them to equal the surface area of my palm! it sucked! i nearly cried without my 89 on the test... not even my good old TI-30XA...

oh well the test was still a freaking joke and i'm 99% sure i aced it even with that pathetic "calculator"


my first first comment i think

     27 February 2000, 00:34 GMT


Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Jon Johnson  Account Info
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or second... darn the bad luck.

some of the questions were like what is this number plus this number... literally... and others asked for the y-value of a given x coord that was right on a labeled line

     27 February 2000, 00:38 GMT

TI Too
Adam Berlinsky-Schine  Account Info
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A similar thing happened to TI's scientific calculators: www.ti.com/calc/docs/statement.htm

     27 February 2000, 00:41 GMT

Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Laura Thompson  Account Info

CASIO'S ARE THE PROBLEM! I said time and time again Casio's suck. But who listens. Geez, some people.

Laura

     27 February 2000, 00:42 GMT


Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Chris Fazio  Account Info

I agree 100%. Casio is the worst kind of calculator you can get. The little blue TI-108's are better than those pieces of junk. And what about that horrible CASIO "color" calculator.? I think we should rid those awful things and get on with our lives.

By the way, this is finally the opportunity to have a TI vs. CASIO vs. HP battle without going off-topic! I Think TI is the best, then HP, then CASIO. CASIO is supposed to make wrist watches, not calculators.

-Chris Fazio

     27 February 2000, 02:19 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Akira_of_HLC  Account Info
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you know, I never understood the numbering system on TI's...I originally though that the higher number you go, the more funcltions you got, but then there are the TI-108's..and they just suck, and then you can probably see that the graphing calcs(7?-92+) seem to go up with functionality, but then we reach the TI-99's which are console gaming systems, so if someone could clarify things, that could help much. thanx.

Akira

     27 February 2000, 05:40 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
ASimPerson
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I think the calc was orgininally like the TI-10 or something, and since it's like a revision or something, it's the TI-108 (think of it as a 10 and then an 8).

     27 February 2000, 18:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
AuroraBoriales  Account Info

Well, from what i think, All calcs below 70 are scientific calculators, and calcs 70-99 are graphing, and anything above in the hundreds range are standard 4 function calcs and anything in the thousands range are printing calcs. (Realize i said 70-99 because the ti-99 was a home computer you hook up to your tv and it is OLD!)

     3 March 2000, 02:55 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Cassady Roop  Account Info
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TI vs CASIO vs HP?

No way! Casio doesn't even merit being included in the debate! That color calc of theirs spends more processorl muscle power trying to run a horrible-looking GUI interface and a few hard to discern colors than it does in actual computation! Next thing you know, you'll have Casios running Micro$oft Windows-Casio, and you'll be able to play solitaire in four colors, but only if you allow Windows-Casio Intercalc Explorer take over the calculator...

     27 February 2000, 05:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Alapanamo  Account Info

lol...I agree completely! Windows-Casio Intercalc Explorer...hah!

     27 February 2000, 07:27 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
jaymz Account Info

<laugh> ...must be one of the funniest comments in a while...and next thing you know, Microsoft will be buying out Casio, so they can downgrade it to Windows 2000BC with Intercr@p Explorer... somebody stop me... </laugh>

     29 February 2000, 01:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
AuroraBoriales  Account Info

Did you know that:

That "color" calc lacks so much in popularaty, that i never found a single game for that calc. Plus, who would want to because the calc costs about $89 and the "program-link" costs $99. So i really think that if there was a website that has casio "games" on it, it would be one empty "archive".

And the "color" display really sucks. You can barely distinguish one "color" from the others. And the "main menu" really sucks because at the store, it took me more than 5 minutes to figure out that the "run" option was the "home screen" where you calculate the problems.

To mention another thing, the alpha keys are super-hard to use because some are "small" keys and some are "large" keys, so it is REALLy hard to type.

Man do i use a lot of quotes.

     3 March 2000, 03:03 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
darkness  Account Info
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Hey, I still have one of the TI-108's. Those things are cool, since I got it in fifth grade and still use it in college. ;)

     27 February 2000, 16:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Samir Ribic  Account Info
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Have you remarked something? Twenty years ago there was race between HP, TI, Sharp and Casio for best calculator. Those four companies are still leading.
And usage of calculators did not change very much. At the bottom there are stupid calcs +-*/M%=, in the middle scientific and "programable" (Casio still has model with 28 bytes of memory) at the top there are pocket computers. The only news are graphic calculators, and symbolic algebra system.

The calculator world was not much changed. Languages are nonstandard, producer tries to hide secrets of machine code programming, the users hack to discover secrets.

During the same period, desktop computers had three generations: ROM-BASIC computers, single task OS and GUI Jumbo OS. A lot of companies went away, and those who have value less than 1000000000$ are not considered successful.
Some leading names from this time like
"Commodore", "Sinclair", "Atari", "Ashton tate", "Fox"
etc. are no longer in business, or bought by giants.

     28 February 2000, 16:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
David W  Account Info

From what I've read (I wasn't actually big enough then to know or care), very few people considered Commodore a leading name. They generally referred to it without the "or" part in the name.

-David, posting your stupid little tidbit of the day.

     29 February 2000, 00:22 GMT

Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Samir Ribic  Account Info
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I had handwatch with calculator that calculated sometimes:
7x8=56000

     27 February 2000, 00:54 GMT

Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Michael Brunner  Account Info
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Dang... that's way off! How could you live with such a contraption?!

     27 February 2000, 03:15 GMT


Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Cassady Roop  Account Info
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Must've been a genuine Casio

     27 February 2000, 05:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Etec  Account Info
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LOL, Ha Ha..Genuine casio..Ha Ha Ha.

Casio calcs, or should I say trash, may suck but there are some casio products that are worth it, like a watch that is also a remote control (good for pulling pranks in class and on friends), keyboards, and pretty much any non calculator stuff they make. Of course its hard to believe that Casio could get away with such crap that it calculates 7x8=56000. Maby the batteries were weak or it dropped or it was made defective or something unusual, same with their plain calcs, maby their just easily messed up by the environment they are operated in. I don't know Casio should abandon calculators if they keep on making crap like that.

     28 February 2000, 01:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Florida Calculators Give Wrong Answers
Samir Ribic  Account Info
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Well, I really forgot was my handwatch Casio or something else, because it was thrown in trash bin ten years ago.

My current handwatch with calc is Casio and it calculates 7x8=56 :-)

     28 February 2000, 07:50 GMT

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