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More Games for AMS v2.0x
Posted by Nick on 13 December 1999, 23:20 GMT

More games are coming out with support under AMS v2.0x. These will function under the new kernel. You can download Falldown v0.1 and BoulderDash v1.1b5. If you have any other success stories with getting games to work on AMS v2.03, please email me.

 


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Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Avri Faibish  Account Info

Yeah, FIRST comment!!!!
But I am sorry to tell you it does not work well,

     13 December 1999, 23:28 GMT

Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Reno  Account Info

just a quick question on apps:

do apps on the 89 fill up the same space (16k) as an 83+'s app does even if it doesn't fully use that much memory?

     13 December 1999, 23:37 GMT


Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
h4X0r  Account Info
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No, TI-89/92+'s have a 68k processor that can handle more than 16k (unlike z80's). That is the only reason that 83+ FlashApps are limited to 16k "chunks."

     14 December 1999, 00:31 GMT

Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Rgb9000  Account Info

DArn, 2nd.
Anyway:
I dont know why you people are so jumpy over the asm 'crisis'. The Basic games work and always will. Some basic games are pretty darn good. Anyone up for monopoly? I think that TI SHOULD upgrade the sys mem for fixes, etc even if it means TEMPORARY loss of asms. TI makes CALCULATORS!!! NOT GAMEBOYS!!! Now: I dont think they should release updates too often if it causes certain existing functions to work inccorectly. But these guys are here for us. We should be glad 89 has a flash feature. If you want your asms, dont upgrade! Its that simple.

     13 December 1999, 23:39 GMT

Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Nick Chaves  Account Info
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I don't know how often a game of monopoly really keeps you from being bored in math class, or any BASIC game for that matter. ASM games are a lot faster and can be more action-filled such as phoenix.

Something else:

Nick Disibato (since my name is Nick too): The news item says falldown twice. isn't the second one supposed to be Boulder Dash?

     14 December 1999, 00:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Chris Remo  Account Info
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I think that people should pretend that BASIC games and Assembly are written in the same language, then judge them. Of course, assemble games would still probably end up favorites, but there are some 89 basic games (notable Final Fantasy Dimension) that are excellent!
I enjoy FFD more than many ASM games I've played. It's incredible that the author managed to do it in BASIC. I've heard the BASIC version of Zelda is good too, but I've yet to play it,
Yes, I know asm is better, faster, more versatile, etc., but just play the game before you judge it.

-Chris

     14 December 1999, 00:19 GMT


Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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This is fixed. Sorry about that :-)... and my name is "Disabato" not "Disibato" *g*

--BlueCalx

     14 December 1999, 01:19 GMT

it isn't all fun and games
KAKE  Account Info
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i don't know if any of you game-heads know this or not but there are asm programs out there that are NOT games. i repeat, asm programs that are *NOT* games. what are these pieces of magic you ask? excellent programs like periodic tables. yes, that's right. school crap. and you know what? <actually, you might have guessed it already, but i'll verbalize it just in case you didn't> i'm rather pissed that these wonderful marvels of animation and information don't work on my 'better' <HA!> rom v.2.03.b.

-KAKE
IP "<!-- crazy? --!>"

     14 December 1999, 04:03 GMT


Re: it isn't all fun and games
Charles Yong  Account Info

Yah, all the BASIC math programs and helpers work on the new ROM I assume. Some of the periodic tables probably work if they are below 8k. My TIPhoneBook89 Program will not work on 2.03 since searching strings and calling up information is completely messed up in ROM 2.03

-Trailblazer

     14 December 1999, 06:15 GMT


Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
anarXikos  Account Info
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I believe Basic games are really bad. They are slow and often too boring to play. Except for some which I find quite good. The new AMS v2.03 is really crappy and I won't upgrade to until I get the same ASM functionality on my calculator with all or at least most programs.

     16 December 1999, 02:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Erich Oelschlegel  Account Info
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How do you know that AMS 2.0x is crappy if you haven't upgraded? I have used AMS 2.0x along with the new Statistics app for about two days now, and am still finding out new stuff to do with it. In addition, in less than a week, some of the best games for the 89 ever made are already running on the new platform. Right now is a perfect time to upgrade.

About your BASIC comment, many BASIC programs are very well made, and do not fit the description your overgeneralizing comment gives them. However, I'm not going to side with the BASMIC campaign because I don't agree with the entire thing. I think its absurd to compare ASM with BASIC. In any case, it's not fair to BASIC programmers to say that everything they make is junk, because you're dead wrong.

~ferich

     17 December 1999, 02:39 GMT

Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
John Ratliff  Account Info
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You can also get Nibbles for AMS 2.0x with the 0.6 Kernel.

It's on Dim-TI already, and I submitted it to ticalc.or last night.

     14 December 1999, 00:54 GMT

Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Erik McGuire  Account Info

Sure, the games work, but none of the high score features work. It won't save your name on Tetris or FallDown.

     14 December 1999, 02:36 GMT


Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
agent00013
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I noticed the same thing. Sometimes during Tetris and some of the other games I could see the screen flickering noticeably. Kinda annoying... but I'm sure these problems will be fixed in the next actual updates of these games. The ones right now are just quick fixes and not much should be expected.

     14 December 1999, 03:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Charles Yong  Account Info

High scores don't work i believe since the VAT system in 2.03 is all messed up. Probably complete changes to the high-score systems will have to be made to make them work.

-Trailblazer

     14 December 1999, 06:17 GMT


Thanx TI for releasing AMS 2.03 - otherwise I wouldn't have started playing Dr Mario :)
SPUI  Account Info

It works for Phoenix and Dr Mario tho.

     16 December 1999, 01:43 GMT

Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
ticalc

sorry this may be offtopic but i heard that there is a software that enables people to send the *.tib files using the parallel link cable. i tried the software but it doesn't work. if somebody tried it and it worked please tell me the steps. please email me at: ticalcnews@yahoo.com

     14 December 1999, 03:27 GMT

Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
Ken Account Info

What software is this? and where do I get it. I've only got a parallel link cable, and I'm working on a serial one... I've been looking for a way to update my ti-89 for quite awhile now...

     14 December 1999, 04:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
ticalc

http://lesti92.ctw.cc/beta.html
download ParallelCableFlashSender from this page.

     14 December 1999, 05:01 GMT


Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
demonsablon guillaume  Account Info

I don't arrive to run the program too also i get it at http://lesti...
Could you email me for explain how to proceed at gdemonsablon@hotmail.fr
thanks

     19 December 1999, 17:15 GMT

Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
benthomas  Account Info

That's good that all these games are getting updated, but I have a question. Is everyone just working on the 89 right now and ignoring the 92+? I have the 92+ and I'm not able to play games right now. Is there any reason for this, or is it just that there are more 89 programmers then 92+ programmers?

Ben

     14 December 1999, 05:14 GMT


Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
CyberBotX  Account Info

I have noticed that too! Why don't you guys make more games and/or programs that work on both calcs, or get some people to work on the 92+ as well! The original 92 did come out before the 89 calc were ever released. Think about how many people who have a 92 with the +module in them. So get some people to work on the 92+!!! It's stupid to work on just the 89 when the 92+ is the same, exact thing, but bigger.

     14 December 1999, 19:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
nugget  Account Info

believe it or not, but not everybody that owns an 89 also owns a 92+. it's kind of hard to program for something you know nothing about. and if the 89 and the 92+ were the same thing, than all programs would work on both systems. but they don't, therefore the two calcutators are not the same.

     15 December 1999, 03:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
benthomas  Account Info

Yes, I know it can be hard to program for something you don't have. But there must be some 92+ programmers out there. Does anyone know of any games in the works?

Ben

     15 December 1999, 05:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: More Games for AMS v2.0x
CyberBotX  Account Info

I'm not saying everyone that has an 89 has a 92+. But they both contain the 68K processor. They both have the save software even. The only differences are keys and screens. You could make one program that, when compiled, will generate an 89 program an a 92+ program. Now, I know nothing about ASM, but I read readme files. I have even tried to read some tutorials on ASM. So I know about some of the things I am talking about. It is already possible to tell the compiler which calc it is for, but it can only create one program for a specific calc. Also, a little off topic here, is anyone trying to find ways of making 8x ASM games convertable to other 8x or 92(+) calcs? If you can make 82 and 85 games work with a certain shell on the 86, can't other calc programs be converted to work on some other calc? I still think that ASM 2.03 is better than 1.0x, but I really want to get some better games. The ones I have are all in BASIC!

     15 December 1999, 05:29 GMT

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