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Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Posted by Phil on 13 November 1999, 21:46 GMT

Kirk Meyer released TISShot today. This is the utility that we use to take the animated screenshots for ticalc.org. The application uses emulators such as Virtual TI to take screenshots.

In related news, he also released FACHK today. This utility checks the integrity of TI Calculator files while they're still on the computer. It will also report file type (ASM/BASIC), shell, and needed libraries.

 


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Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
jordan clifford  Account Info

Both of these programs are great, but perhaps FACHK should be under DOS utilities. Anyway I think they are both great especially the Screen shot utility.

     13 November 1999, 22:35 GMT


Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
(Web Page)

Except that it's a Win32 console application, and if you try to run it under DOS, I don't believe it will work...

     13 November 1999, 22:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
jordan clifford  Account Info

Oh ok.

     13 November 1999, 22:58 GMT

Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Reno  Account Info

(very much off topic)
anybody else notice that the graphlink with the 89 is very unstable? or is that just me?

I've had my 86 for a year and the graphlink fits in there like a shoe, but in my 89 it is very loose. But those links that come with the calcs fit perfectly in the 89. Is there something wrong with my graphlink?

     13 November 1999, 22:59 GMT

Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
David Phillips  Account Info
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Exactly the opposite for me. I've used my 86 for almost two years and the link port barely works anymore (haven't tried with my new Black Graph Link, but would think it's the same). The 89 is hardly used, and works just fine.

Btw, I've gotten some shoes that are way too big before :)

     13 November 1999, 23:05 GMT


Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Justin Surratt  Account Info
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If you upgrade your Flash Rom it should work better. It is still a little buggy, but it works about 70% of the time.

     13 November 1999, 23:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Reno  Account Info

I just noticed something:

if you turn off your 89 then put the graphlink in, the 89 turns on. Since this occurs, Im guessing it can get a good link with the graphlink.

After doing this, I sent and received files from my 89, and it worked perfectly. I don't know if it's 100%, but it worked far better than when I just inserted the graphlink while it was on and then tried sending and receiving

     13 November 1999, 23:28 GMT

Mine Has Stopped
TI83andTI89Owner

My graphlink won't recognize my 89 at all. It works for the 83 (original) beautifully, but not with the 89. I e-mailed TI, and they said that I would have to send it in. I haven't done anything to it. I wonder what is really wrong.

     13 November 1999, 23:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Justin Karneges  Account Info
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I believe this is because the link ports on the 89/92 are interrupt driven (unlike the rest of the calcs). Since when a calculator is off, it is simply in a "halt" state, any interrupt should turn the calc back on (not just the ON key interrupt).

On a side note, this trick could be kinda useful for like a modem/cell phone. Like if someone were to make an email app, you could have your TI-89/modem/cell in your glove compartment or something, and when you recieved email, a computer would call the phone. The modem would then send "RING" to the calc, the calc would then suddenly turn on and could issue an "ATA", pick up the line, recieve the email, then hang up and turn off.

Heh, ok those were some long run-on sentences but hopefully everyone gets the idea.

-Justin

     14 November 1999, 00:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Dan Englender Account Info
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On a slightly unrelated note, the 83+ turns on as well if you plug it into the graphlink, I'm not sure about the 73.

-Dan

     14 November 1999, 02:04 GMT

Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
EV9D93  Account Info
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They prgms sound great kirk!!!!
---------(off topic)--does anyone know how to give VTI prgms without using the link and send them from calc? I cant find out how, if its that Send thing or whatever is first option when you right click, that locks comp up! And y doesnt Rusty add Extra Virtual Memory?so it can have like ALL prgms out there on it?(that would help!)

     14 November 1999, 01:04 GMT


Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
redink1  Account Info
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Three words: Drag-and-drop

     14 November 1999, 03:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
EV9D93  Account Info
(Web Page)

AHHHHHHH
THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHH SO EASY!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHH THAT IS TO EASY TO BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THX

     14 November 1999, 03:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
AlienCow  Account Info
(Web Page)

D4mn, you're excitable. LOL

     16 November 1999, 18:03 GMT

Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Jason Kovacs  Account Info
(Web Page)

I have a question about the file output... I have sucessfully gone through the Red->Yellow->Green->Red process, and I try to open the gif file, but there seems to be no extension. I have .gif associated to PSP or Animation Shop or something, and I recognize the icon for it, but the outputted file form TISShot is not the same. When I click on properties, I dont see any evidence of a .gif extension. Tell me if I have not finished the process to output the file correctly, or what I am doing wrong, thanks...

Jason_K

     14 November 1999, 01:25 GMT


Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
brentes
(Web Page)

Mine does that too. Just rename the file with a .gif extension.

     14 November 1999, 14:57 GMT

Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Fuzz  Account Info
(Web Page)

hey man, i really like this stuff. keep up the good work.
----on a somewhat unrelated note, but since there's really no where else better to put it----
whats the deal w/ all of the 82 & 83 BASIC math progs? ther've been about 100 total in the past few days, whats going on?

     14 November 1999, 01:25 GMT

Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Jason Kovacs  Account Info
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Yeah, its funny because LM86 and an updated version of Calcsys were updated 3 days ago, yet they never got put on the page. Also, I uploaded and claimed 7G for ION this morning and the 83 version got up within a few hours, but not the 83+ version which I claimed seperately... If the reply to this is that the ticalc staff is very busy, then they just need More staff, simple as that...

Jason_K

     14 November 1999, 01:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Phil Genera  Account Info
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The real problem isn't that we're busier now than we were before, it's that recently (specifically, since we implemented archive stats) there have been a flood of new files. It used to be uncommon to get 15 in a day, now 35 per day is the norm. Unluckily, I don't always have time to do all the files, so I have to do as many as I can and save the rest for the next day. Speaking of which, it's about that time again.
--
Phil

     14 November 1999, 02:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
connect4

But... why not do what you guys seem to do a lot and just skip actually testing 10-15 extra progs, so you get 30 up per day.

     14 November 1999, 04:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Bryan Rabeler  Account Info
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<sarcasism>
Yeah, why not do that? I mean, in Chris's own words, "Testing programs is overkill".
</sarcasism>

     14 November 1999, 05:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
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Please don't misquote people, it annoys me greatly. The actual quote is:

"Yes, it's uncommon to have the luxury of someone with as much time as Bryan has to test all of the programs. I think most of us consider that overkill. However, the reaction on the list to Kirk's AI testing has generally suggested that we need more than that (but not as much as in the past). So the happy medium is exactly what we're shooting for."

Now if you want to argue whether ticalc.org has met that happy medium, that's one thing. But Bryan, there aren't many other people that can devote nearly all of their time to... calculators.

     14 November 1999, 20:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Bryan Rabeler  Account Info
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The fact is Kirk, Chris thought pre-testing programs was overkill. They want quantity over quality, which is backwards.

If there aren't many people who can devote their time to checking files, why did ticalc.org fire the person that did just that?

But I guess there must have been some wisdom to that, because the coordinators are immortal and can't make mistakes.

     14 November 1999, 22:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Bryan Rabeler  Account Info
(Web Page)

Another thought, why not just let users post files directly to the main page? It's almost the same thing as not testing them at all, which is what they do anyway. And plus, it would be much faster and require less work by the staff. That way, they would have time for more important things, like moderation of these boards.

     14 November 1999, 06:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
brentes
(Web Page)

HAHA... That does seem like it is...

     14 November 1999, 14:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
(Web Page)

Does the concept of post-checking escape you, Bryan? ticalc.org post-checks files after a minimal pre-check. Manually checking takes a lot of work and is done _after_ the file is in the archives.

It seems to me that the public would rather get the files sooner and have them be miscategorized for a while as opposed to having to wait for them to be posted. This _was_ the case when you did the archives. You would post all of the important ASM programs, but you'd let the BASIC programs build up in the cache.

Now are 100% of the files checked, with any "errors" as you call them being caught? No. _Nobody's perfect._

     14 November 1999, 21:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Bryan Rabeler  Account Info
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Post-checking files is stupid. It does not take that much work to pre-test files, if you know what you are doing. No professional website is going to post things to their page and THEN check and make sure the content they posted is legal and accurate.

Your view Kirk is the same as the view ticalc.org has taken in the past year or so. They want quantity over quality. I think that is backwards thinking.

What's the point of posting as many files as you can to the front page if they are all in the wrong directories or half of them don't even work right? Doesn't that make you look stupid?

Obviously not 100% of the files are being checked. When I was the file archiver, 100% of the files were checked. That's the difference Kirk. The difference is ticalc.org doesn't care about perfection as long as there are files on the front page.

     14 November 1999, 22:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Nathan Haines  Account Info
(Web Page)

The file archivers could spend two hours on each file, and that would have no effect on how much time I have to moderate the comment boards.

You forget that we are each assigned our own jobs here, and we don't do the others' jobs.

     15 November 1999, 07:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Bryan Rabeler  Account Info
(Web Page)

Well if the file archivers didn't have to do any work on the files, they could spend time helping you moderate the comment boards. So instead of checking for "bad" comments every 10 minutes, you could do it every 5 minutes. :)

     15 November 1999, 08:52 GMT


Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
jordan clifford  Account Info

They're all by one author, Michael Lloyd, obiously he wants to be in the busiest authors list.

     14 November 1999, 01:53 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Kirk Meyer Releases Screen Shot Utility
Phil Genera  Account Info
(Web Page)

Actually, as near as I can tell, Micheal Lloyd is a college professor who has submitted all the basic programs he uses in his classes.
--
Phil

     14 November 1999, 02:45 GMT

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