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The Return of the Voxels
Posted by Michael on 8 September 2004, 04:33 GMT

[Voxel demo] The second version of the make-you-drool graphics voxel demo has been released, now utilizing the improved "V2-Engine." Those of you who missed the original article will want to look at the original file to see the improvements. There also is now the VX.Studio, an on-calc tool to create voxel landscapes on the 89/92+/V200. I'm still not sure if it has reached the point of practical applications yet, but eye candy will always have a niche. If nothing else, impress your friends at school.

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Re: The Return of the Voxels
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

>>There are no comments on this article yet. Why don't you add one?

OK, I'll add one.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this doesn't seem to be extensively documented to the point where a programmer could use voxels in an applied setting.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 04:39 GMT


Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Without much guesstimation, that is. Is there mathematical documentation or formulas that one should use, or is just graphics?

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 11:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
W Hibdon  Account Info
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You should be shot for typing "guesstimation"....

-W-

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 13:58 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
ti_is_good_++  Account Info

Would you like to suggest a word that I should have used instead? It is not a guess because it is reasoned and it is not estimation because there is no mathematical or statistical foundation for the figure that results. Or better, would you like to comment on the topic at hand.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 19:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
W Hibdon  Account Info
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Well, how about a real word? Yes I know that it is, but it sounds... stupid.... It probably comes from this other math theacher that does not know shit. She had to ask me for help, and I did not even have her class. She used the word guesstimate. I wanted to shoot her for it.

-W-

Reply to this comment    9 September 2004, 00:51 GMT


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Chivo  Account Info

"Guesstimation" is just a mix of "guess" and "estimation", and it's perfectly acceptable to use it to mean the same as it sounds. It's kind of like the word "automagically" which is a combination of the words "automatically" and "magically" and means pretty much what it sounds like too.

Reply to this comment    9 September 2004, 01:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
nicklaszlo Account Info
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That stands for "Gnome Estimation". You're wrong, grammar Nazi.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 20:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
anykey  Account Info

Oh! Would you like some ice for that burn?!

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 23:54 GMT

Re: The Return of the Voxels
Lionel Debroux Account Info
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Does the program use fast methods to print numbers into strings ("itoa") and display strings ? Switching from DrawStr to a fast method boosted Ice Hockey 68k.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 07:31 GMT


Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
Kai Kostack  Account Info
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negative. how fast are the routines from ice hockey compared to DrawStr?
i think the speed benefit will be hardly noticeable. even if i disable any text output (and conversions) i cannot recognize any difference in speed.

@everyone:
i've missed a serious input bug in the V2S executable, it's already fixed now. you can download v1.3 from me or wait for ticalc.org's update.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 12:34 GMT


Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
Fisch2  Account Info

>>how fast are the routines from ice hockey compared to DrawStr?
They are MUCH faster! When I first implemented them into Ice Hockey, the game speed jumped so much that I couldn't even see the Puck - so I had to add a game speed setting.

If you are drawing text input to the screen every frame (or nearly so), you should definitely notice the difference.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 23:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
Kai Kostack  Account Info
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i've reviewed the code, seems promising. it shouldn't take long to replace DrawStr... hopefully the landscape will not disappear like your puck! :-)

Reply to this comment    9 September 2004, 00:49 GMT

Re: The Return of the Voxels
Brian Gordon  Account Info
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i'm drooling over a concrete shed. yum.
Maybe i'd be more positive if i had an 89, but i'm so jealous i have to be negative to cover it up.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 11:41 GMT

Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
Derrick F.  Account Info

That's understandable.

Reply to this comment    9 September 2004, 19:41 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info

Yeah, the part about "make-you-drool graphics" was right...man, I wish I had an 89...

Reply to this comment    9 September 2004, 20:51 GMT

Re: The Return of the Voxels
Daniel Collotte Account Info

*drools* now i just need a 86k calc X(

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 14:25 GMT

Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
Caboose  Account Info

I hope you mean a 68k calc :)

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 20:45 GMT


Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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I need a 86k calc too. All I have is a z80 and a 68k.

Reply to this comment    8 September 2004, 21:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
CajunLuke Account Info

Yeah, really. Z86k: Motorola/Zilog 180MHz, runs Z80 and M68k programs. Really, really fast.

(Try to find out where the speed came from.)

Reply to this comment    9 September 2004, 21:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
benryves  Account Info
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Um, the Z80 in the Z80 calcs is a Z180?
That's all I can think of.

Reply to this comment    10 September 2004, 10:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Return of the Voxels
CajunLuke Account Info

Clue: the fastest z80 is 15MHz, and the fastest 68k is 12 MHz.

Reply to this comment    10 September 2004, 20:24 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info

12 * 15 = 180

Reply to this comment    11 September 2004, 00:07 GMT


You win!
CajunLuke Account Info

Precisely. Give yourself a cookie.

Reply to this comment    11 September 2004, 12:32 GMT

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