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Irked and Chafed
Posted by Nick on 19 January 2004, 07:11 GMT

I've become somewhat irked and chafed at some of the things that have gone on lately, so I feel a need to step in and talk to you folks again. Many of you are still cool, but there have been a few incidents of, shall we say, morally questionable saliency that have occurred.

I need to reiterate the importance of the rules for posting comments on ticalc.org's message boards. The frequency of trolls and lamer kiddies has become intolerably, painfully high for all of us to deal with here. Over the past three years, my experiences in watching the boards and hearing of what's happened on the in-house staff list has caused me to lose a lot of respect for the folks that post here.

Recently, a ticalc.org staff member has been physically threatened on the comment boards. Don't bother trying to check for who did it; the offending comment has been deleted. We do not take this lightly. I personally do not take this lightly. Keeping in mind what's happened to me previously, you would figure that nobody here would take this lightly. You would be right. We do not take this lightly. At the very least, it is against US law to make such threats; I don't know about Swedish law, but you get the idea. It's bad. This is bad. The entire situation here, in this place, in the place where I am currently typing, is patently, horribly, stupidly, impossibly, staggeringly, manyadjectively bad. We are a non-profit, private group of similarly-interested individuals who are doing this on our own time and our own dime; if you don't like it, either leave or do it yourself. The last thing anyone - "anyone" being us and our visitors both - needs is some phenomenally flaming, foppish moron instituting destructive discourse on our primary method of inter-community communication. That does a disservice to us, for wasting our time killing off troll posts; to the community, for having to wade through a low signal-to-noise ratio on the boards; and to yourself, for presenting your persona as, quite simply, an immature dumbass.

After what's gone on in my time at ticalc.org, I've lost faith in the human race enough that I feel like the comment was all talk. Still, it's worth reminding you happy folks that our rules for posting here are non-negotiable because they result in the comment boards existing for their intended purpose: as a constructive method of discussion about news in the TI world.

We have tried to tool these rules to be as reasonable as possible, allowing for people to communicate what they want and read what they can without trolling. Still, we're more than open to any positive criticism; we recognize that we're fallible people just like you, and we're more than open to communication. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions, feel free to email the news editors. We ceaselessly strive, both behind the scenes and in front, to make this site as good as possible for our users, and hearing from you is critical to our goals.

I hope you understand why I wrote this. I offered to write this when questions came up about how to handle the recent happenings. You know how often I post things to ticalc.org (read: you haven't read me in a while, right? *grin*); I feel very strongly on this issue because it's directly changed my life - for better and for worse - but I'd rather a similar incident not happen to my friends and colleagues.

I hope you all seriously consider what I've said.

Later,
nickd

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Re: Irked and Chafed
Joey Gannon  Account Info
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Amen, nickd. I've also been becoming fed up with the toolosity of some of the people around here. I really hope people take your words to heart.

Reply to this comment    19 January 2004, 08:17 GMT


Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
benryves  Account Info
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Me too.
I've really given up posting anything here, mostly because of what goes on on the boards.

Reply to this comment    19 January 2004, 11:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
JcN  Account Info

Ditto

Reply to this comment    19 January 2004, 14:58 GMT


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Patrick Sidney  Account Info
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I've even stopped posting here...

Reply to this comment    21 January 2004, 16:55 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
Gergely Patai  Account Info
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I've seen very little meaningful activity on these boards since I'm frequenting this site ('99). I could never really take the time to wade through the large masses of nonsensical posts. MV's arrival was a great relief; even if the trolls found it too drastic, moderation helped a lot compared to the previous situation. Nevertheless, there much are better places to discuss calculator related things, since those on the programmer side have long left this one, with a few exceptions perhaps...

Reply to this comment    19 January 2004, 19:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
BlackThunder  Account Info
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I find that wierd. I, myself, have not seen many trolls. A few off topic posts, yes, but people going around insulting each other? No, not really.

Reply to this comment    19 January 2004, 22:40 GMT

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KermMartian Account Info
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How about the fr00ds? Remember them?

Reply to this comment    19 January 2004, 23:18 GMT


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BlackThunder  Account Info
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No. I'm not exactly a regular here. In fact, I haven't even heard of nickd, except in a fake news article Morgan linked to, about how the site's Pending files was at zero, and nickd was heard yelling "WHEN I GROW UP I WANT TO BE A CACTUS... LALALALALALA..." and Eric was saying "Before you start sending me a million emails, yes, we're aware that ol' Nick has a few... problems. But we'll deal with that later, once we figure out what's wrong with our &$#@%^(@#% pending count". It was funny. ^_^

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 01:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
smartguy8  Account Info

This is the 21st century, this is practically the norm now. Our generation has been plauged by wars, violence, and unnecessary destruction. With such immorality going on, one could not help being dragged into the eternal fray. As time progresses things change probably for better, or worse. We might not live to see a utopian environment, but it will happen. Right now the past has happened, it influenced the present. Our present is happening, it is influencing the future. Our future will happen and it can change.

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 00:10 GMT

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MGL Account Info

This is the kind of nonsense I don't want to see.

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 03:49 GMT


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Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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I SOOO agree with you.

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 22:56 GMT

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garyanddepleatedteamup  Account Info

WTF? Could you clarify that? Oh, nevermind, perhaps I don't WANT to here such crap from the touch feely people in the world!

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 17:08 GMT

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garyanddepleatedteamup  Account Info

*touchy

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 17:08 GMT

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Matt Daubenmeyer  Account Info

ya your rite our future is realley gunna be hell.

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 21:22 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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OMG, do you actually believe that? Bandwagon logic, I just love it...

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 22:56 GMT

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Justin LaFrance  Account Info

dude, how the hell can you call yourself a "smartguy" when you spell plagued as "plauged"?
and by the way, your message makes absolutely no sense.
send it by spell&grammar check.

Reply to this comment    22 January 2004, 19:47 GMT


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Michael McElroy Account Info
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*ahem*
Posting entire books to the boards, flooding the boards with off-topic spelling and grammar corrections, insults and harrassment to various staff members...

some of the things I've done that I now call 'childish'. Your post will probably be deleted, and for a good reason... it's totally off-topic, abusive, and unnecessary.

Reply to this comment    23 January 2004, 02:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
Michael McElroy Account Info
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Is there supposed to be a hidden meaning amongst the babble? like ... a "Where's Waldo" sort of thing?

Reply to this comment    23 January 2004, 02:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
KermMartian Account Info
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Yeah, I used to post a lot more here before the community started to go downhill. I mean, after the 2000th quadratic equation solver...

Reply to this comment    19 January 2004, 23:18 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
jordan krage  Account Info

someone made a quadractic equation solver!?!?!?!? lol

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 02:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
Matthew Marshall  Account Info
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Not just someone... many someones!

MWM

Reply to this comment    20 January 2004, 15:36 GMT


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jordan krage  Account Info

i think that the current total number of 83+ quadractic equation solvers should be on the web stastistics, lol

Reply to this comment    21 January 2004, 22:10 GMT


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Ben Cherry  Account Info
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hmmm, i bet i could make one WAAAAAY better than the rest, it will have all sorts of cool features like a menu, and maybe 20 or 30 other functions and it is so much better that i am definitely going to put it up online. It'll be like NOTHING you've ever seen before. I'd better get started, check the new files soon, cuz youre definitely going to want to get this... :)

Reply to this comment    21 January 2004, 23:37 GMT


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KermMartian Account Info
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Dude, do you know how many (probably 50% of those in the archives) claim to be vastly superior because of the EXACT SAME FEATURES that you mentioned?
Don't bother.

Reply to this comment    22 January 2004, 13:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
benryves  Account Info
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It's called a JOKE, right..?

Reply to this comment    22 January 2004, 16:03 GMT


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Michael McElroy Account Info
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Hence the ':)' at the end.

Reply to this comment    22 January 2004, 18:05 GMT


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Ben Cherry  Account Info
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exactly

Reply to this comment    23 January 2004, 00:14 GMT


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Matthew Marshall  Account Info
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I didn't think it was a joke. I did think, "Ok, what is so great about a menu?" but I did not realize that you were being sarcastic.

MWM

Reply to this comment    23 January 2004, 04:25 GMT


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BlackThunder  Account Info
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O_o

YAY, another excuse to link to MY wonderful Quadratic Formula solver, made as a response to someone's post about how the only way you could improve the existing ones would be to add animations.

http://www.geocities .com/BlackThunder74 6/ThundersGFTIC/QuadForm.gif

Take out the spaces. Or click the URL above and add "gif" to the end.

Reply to this comment    23 January 2004, 15:48 GMT


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ti_is_good_++  Account Info

That is messed up.

Reply to this comment    31 January 2004, 17:00 GMT


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jordan krage  Account Info

i think all programs should be erased except for featured ones, then just start from scratch, this would weed out old outdated crapy basic programs that no one ever downloads
of course the pending files list would skyrocket the next day...

Reply to this comment    22 January 2004, 02:26 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
Ben Cherry  Account Info
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there are many unfeatured games that are much better than the many featured programs, so it would not be fair to remove those, especially if their developer no longer regulary checks ticalc, becuase then he would be unable to put it back up again.

Reply to this comment    22 January 2004, 02:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
Paul Nickerson  Account Info

perhapse set up a system to remove programs not downloaded at all in the past seven days?

Reply to this comment    22 January 2004, 05:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Irked and Chafed
jordan krage  Account Info

exactly!
except dumb peeps would keep uploading the same program everytime it got deleted...

Reply to this comment    23 January 2004, 01:54 GMT

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