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Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Posted by Andy on 27 October 1999, 22:51 GMT

In what Icarus Productions understates as a "big surprise," Maze 3D Beta 5 has been released with the source code included. Maze 3D is a high performance ray-casting engine for the TI-86. For those of you who have been living under a rock for the past few years, a ray-casting engine is what games like Wolfenstein 3D and Doom/Doom II are based upon. It is likely the release of this program with the source will spark other programmers to develop interesting games that make use of this engine.

 


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Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
SRJ  Account Info
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It's about time a cool game like Doom comes out for the 86! If only I had one... :-)
1st comment!

     27 October 1999, 23:06 GMT

Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
calcsale  Account Info

Sweet second comment.
I will also comment on the engine. I think this will spark a programers revolution. Allowing them to create awsome games.

     27 October 1999, 23:17 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
ikecam  Account Info

This game has been around for a while; this is just an update.

     28 October 1999, 00:41 GMT

Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Brettman  Account Info

oh hopefully i have the second comment and yeah the game is awesome

     27 October 1999, 23:20 GMT

Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
elcobbola  Account Info
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Actually this game has been out for a helluza long time. But you don't have a 86 so no big deal.

This game sucks anyway...there is nothing to do but walk around

     28 October 1999, 00:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
pcflyer1  Account Info
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That's the point in releasing the source code. The actual Maze3D was just to demonstrate the use of the ray-casting engine. Now others can use the source code for that engine to create games.

     28 October 1999, 01:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
elcobbola  Account Info
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I have nothing against the source...I think that what is there is great as a base. But no one wants to just walk around so this is of no use to "gamers" so it is only good for the programmers...hence, like I said before, this game sucks.

     28 October 1999, 02:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Charles Yong  Account Info

I think you are very short sighted Elcobbola

This is not a "game" in itself, but basically a ray-casting engine used within a program as an example.

This was not meant to keep you entertained for hours walking around, but for programmers to have the opportunity to use the ray-casting engine to make some awesome games for the calc.

-Trailblazer

     28 October 1999, 03:03 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
elcobbola  Account Info
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So, in other words, you just repeated what I said above with a different wording. Since it is listed as a game, that is how I view it. From that stand point it sucks (I grow tired of saying this.) I am not short sighted, I see its true purpose very cleary. It is an example of how to use the engine, great, but it is not entertaining as is, it shouldn't be considered a game.

     28 October 1999, 03:36 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
ionix
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i don't know... i kind of enjoy just moving around... it has a peaceful soothing feeling to it while i'm sitting here listening to some teacher bitch about how fat she is

     28 October 1999, 06:21 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Charles Yong  Account Info

Well where would you put it:P The "Games" section is the only applicable place other than miscellaneous, and if he put it in there, it wouldn't get as much attention (sorry all you misc people... I look more for games than misc stuff) I suppose he could put it in the "3d Moving Around Type First Person Viewpoint Folder" section, but unfortunately we don't have that yet

     28 October 1999, 07:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
elcobbola  Account Info
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I agree that it is the best place for it. But the comment that started this whole string was something to the affect of, "I wish my calc. had a cool game like this." So I said it is a bad game...

     28 October 1999, 23:10 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Jeff Barrett  Account Info

I have a really old game on my PC, it predates Wolfenstien 3D, and is just walking around in an early ray casting engine. That game sucks, but a lot of the very early ray casting games were based on it, and they were good for their time (now they suck really bad)

     30 October 1999, 01:07 GMT


Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
reds_maniac

Could like someone make one of this program for ti-83?

     28 October 1999, 01:54 GMT

Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
DWedit  Account Info
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Is this any better than Defiance 82?

     27 October 1999, 23:22 GMT

Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
adamb  Account Info
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did defiance for the 82 ever come out? as far as i know, the page went down, and that was the end...

     27 October 1999, 23:29 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Alapanamo  Account Info

Defiance unfortunately never came out, except for an extremely buggy, unstable version you could download from the Defiance home page. Unlike Defiance, there's nothing to do in this game except finding the exit...at least, until a programmer adds enemies, weapons, etc. to the game (hint, hint).

(Regarding the first post) Until then, this game is nothing like Doom except for the first-person view. If you must have Doom on a calc and you have an 85, get Daedalus. It's not perfect, but...

P.S. Love all the wall textures in this game. :-)
P.P.S. Anybody remember that guy who, in a message board comment, said he had programmed a complete version of Doom for the 92(+) or 89 and was wondering whether he should release it? I wondered whatever happened to him (and if he was just B.S.-ing us)...

     28 October 1999, 00:54 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
akdjr  Account Info
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actually, you can run daedalus (and a bunch of other col 85 games) on the 86 using the latest version of YAS...

     28 October 1999, 01:18 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Alapanamo  Account Info

Oh yeah, I forgot about using YAS! In fact, that's the only way I've played Daedalus: emulated on YAS. Thank God (well, Aaron Curtis, actually) for YAS! I love my YAS!


     28 October 1999, 01:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Aaron Curtis  Account Info
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You're welcome :)

     28 October 1999, 02:57 GMT


85 games on the 86
DaRkBlAd3

how do you send the 85 games to the 86, it only sends 86 games through the graphlink software from ti.com?


-DaRkBlAd3

     28 October 1999, 23:43 GMT


Re: 85 games on the 86
Alapanamo  Account Info

Open up the TI-Graph Link 86 software, open the Link menu, and choose "Send...".

Then, in the "File Name:" dialog box, replace *.86* with *.85*. This will show all TI-85 files. Select the 85 file you want to add, and send it. Easy, huh? :-)

     29 October 1999, 01:27 GMT


Re: Re: 85 games on the 86
DaRkBlAd3

sounds easy, thanx

     29 October 1999, 01:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Adamman  Account Info
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BTW, hopefully I can release another demo by Christmas that's very much faster and more stable. There's just a few bugs left to conquer and some new, faster routines to test.
Regarding what you said;

"
Unlike Defiance, there's nothing to do in this game except finding the exit...at least, until a programmer adds enemies, weapons, etc. to the game (hint, hint).
"

Right now there is nothing to do in Defiance, either ;). But I suppose what you mean is that there will be something to do.

~Adamman

     28 October 1999, 04:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Alapanamo  Account Info

Yeah, I meant something along the lines of "Unlike what Defiance _will_ have when a complete version comes out..."

BTW, good luck on programming Defiance!

     29 October 1999, 01:30 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Adamman  Account Info
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thanks!

~Adamman

     29 October 1999, 04:31 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Adamman  Account Info
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If the Defiance page is down I'd be worried...no, the project has been temporarily suspended since about June and will be continued once I find some free time. It was down for about a week, however, due to some firewall problems. I'd just like to take this oppurtunity to say that the Defiance project is still very much alive, and actually will probably be continued in a few weeks (after marching band is over).

~Adamman

     28 October 1999, 04:45 GMT


Re: Re: Maze 3D Beta 5 Released with Source
Jeff Barrett  Account Info

Is Defiance any thing like the piece of shit Doom wannabie memory wasters on the 82,83,85,and 86?

     30 October 1999, 01:08 GMT

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