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kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Posted by Andy on 25 April 1999, 04:53 GMT

kirk.ticalc.org is now ready for the public to view. Although the page does contain some information about Kirk's upcoming programs, including Cymbol (previously TI-94), the primary focus of the site is TIAC. TIAC is an assembly language programming competition where contestants formulate routines to perform specific tasks; their routines are scored on the bases of size and speed. Additionally, there is a subjective part to the competition. The deadline for the current competition is in approximately one week.

 


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About time...
Asymtope

This was long over due. I'm glad to see you're fully back. About time you made a web site about all the stuff you make to help all those morons out there(ME)

     25 April 1999, 05:05 GMT

Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
George Limpert

I find it interesting that the news article about Kirk Meyer's site was posted by Andy Selle. Was there any particular reason for that? Other that that, I am pleased to see the site open.

     25 April 1999, 05:32 GMT

Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Scott Noveck (SMN)
(Web Page)

To keep us from viciously attacking his vanity - everyone's a critic

     25 April 1999, 07:00 GMT


(hopefully) unbiased news postings
KAKE
(Web Page)

Kirk explained a while back that they would post each other's news to keep it from being blatently biased and to keep the general public happy.

-KAKE
IP
'perhaps they need a booster club, andy'

     26 April 1999, 03:00 GMT

Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
kirk scared?

Why is Kirk scared to post news articles about himself now?

     25 April 1999, 05:39 GMT


Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
ticalc_chris

Scared to? Rather, he's not allowed to. That's our policy -- somebody else must post a news item if it's about you or something you're working on. In the past, people have complained about our editors using the news section for their own purposes (even if that wasn't the case).

Chris

     25 April 1999, 08:29 GMT

Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
mhlandry

Nice contest. Another original idea...

     25 April 1999, 05:41 GMT


Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Jeffrey Malone
(Web Page)

original idea? i think not! both Ircus Productions and Dimension-TI had that idea first! Also, don't you think it's a little strange that kirk has his own program, emu86, as number 1 for computer utilities? is it also strange that his is the only emu on that ballot? or is it just because kirk posted the results?

Jeffrey Malone
(¯`·.¸(¯`·.¸ ZAPO ¸.·´¯)¸.·´¯)
zapo.calc.org

     25 April 1999, 08:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Kirk Meyer
(Web Page)

Sure, I admit, its similar to Icarus's contest. I did add some new twists in though that make it much more realistic. However, DIM-TI's contests are BASIC. BASIC contests are not at all like assembly contests (only partly due to the amount of entrants).

Now then, as for Emu86, personally I think its a terrible emulator, and I may not get around to fixing it much. However, only programs submitted in the past month can be nominated for Program of the Month, and all of the Windows programs that were submitted in March were nominated. I personally wish none of my stuff had won because they both are terrible programs.

     25 April 1999, 23:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Bryan Rabeler
(Web Page)

<< However, DIM-TI's contests are BASIC. BASIC contests are not at all like assembly contests (only partly due to the amount of entrants). >>

Perhaps you are not aware, but Dimension-TI's challenges are both Assembly and TI-BASIC.

     26 April 1999, 00:40 GMT


Dimension-TI''s Contests
Kirk Meyer
(Web Page)

Theirs may be ASM, but AFAIK they are a combination of both (not solely ASM). Icarus's and my contests focus on things that should be done in ASM (hm lets try to rotate a sprite in TI BASIC, that'll be reeeeeely fast ;)

     26 April 1999, 00:51 GMT


Re: Dimension-TI''s Contests
Adam Berlinsky-Schine
(Web Page)

Actually we rotate them so some challenges are strictly ASM and some are strictly BASIC.

     26 April 1999, 00:59 GMT


Re: Re: Dimension-TI''s Contests
mhlandry

My comment was sarcastic, but I see no one picked up on that. Sorry.

     26 April 1999, 04:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Dimension-TI''s Contests
Bryan Rabeler
(Web Page)

I picked it up, I just didn't respond to your comment. No need to tell ticalc.org what they already know.

     26 April 1999, 07:12 GMT

Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Cavan Carroll (another idiot)

damn him , I want to be a beta tester
anyone feel like giving me a copy of Cymbol

     25 April 1999, 08:02 GMT

Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
que?

heh its kind of funny that since kirk is in charge of hosting he hosted his own site right after terminating mikes tussey's.
heh....

     25 April 1999, 09:11 GMT


Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Bryan Rabeler
(Web Page)

Actually, I think Magnus is the guy who runs the hosting stuff now.

Mike Tussey's site was terminated? I didn't know that, wasn't it just announced a week or so ago? Why didn't ticalc.org announce that they were axed? What happened?

     25 April 1999, 11:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Bryan Rabeler
(Web Page)

I just visited his site, and look what I found:

4.09.99 - Wow. Who'd a thought it'd happen. ticalc.org shut down this site today because of "inapproriate content" and "breech of contract" and other nonsense. Well, I've put warnings next to potentially offensive games and removed the editoral I wrote. We'll see how it goes...

This is disturbing. What kind of "inappropriate content" was on this site? Also, why does ticalc.org only post news articles when a site starts to be hosted, and not when the hosting is being terminated? Why only report the good news and not the bad as well?

     25 April 1999, 11:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Adam Berlinsky-Schine
(Web Page)

ticalc.org, and Dimension-TI too, has to watch out for things like "inappropriate content." Both sites, I believe, make all the webmasters of hosted sites "sign" some sort of contract. Things like this happen; it's happened with several sites with us. Dimension-TI also has a contract with it's server that says we will not post any inappropriate content, such as porn or mp3s. That includes hosted sites. I know ticalc.org doesn't have that problem, but they still shouldn't be hosting sites with inappropriate content. We do the same thing, sometimes we have to "gently pressure" some sites to live up to their potential and that occasionally means termination. It's unavoidable. I'd be surprised if this were the only instance ticalc.org has had and will have.

As for why they didn't announce this, think about all the people who have been complaining that ticalc.org is "begging for news" and claiming that each news item "isn't worthy of news." I think that this is less newsworthy than most of the articles here.

     25 April 1999, 16:38 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Mike Tussey
(Web Page)

I admit that some of the programs on the site could have offended some people, but you've got to keep in mind that they're only games. Calculator games for that matter. I think most people realize that. I know the TI-Files did. They added rape with no questions asked.

     26 April 1999, 16:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Anon

TI-Files also has porn in their archives. I think we all should agree that these kinds of programs are not reasonable. Don't judge the morality of a program by whether TI-Files posts it.

     26 April 1999, 19:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Mike Tussey
(Web Page)

Ooo! Calculator porn! This is surely the cause of problems throughout the world!

     26 April 1999, 21:11 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
SPUI

Thanx Adam - it seems usually you explain stuff when the ticalc staff fails to answer questions :P

     27 April 1999, 02:36 GMT


life is strange
KAKE
(Web Page)

ironic, isn't it? that's life for you...

-KAKE
IP
(one of my few pointless posts)

     28 April 1999, 14:24 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
Ed Fry
(Web Page)

From what I can tell, He had a coulple of games that were considered inapporiate. One was called Rape where the object of the game was to rape women. The other was an animation of some sort (Most likely Porn). another thing im guessing is The article he wrote about how a School banned the Rape game because of it's content.

All this I found out by reading his own site as well as the comments listed on the message board under the news article of his site. If Ticalc.org or Mike Tussey want to add to this, then that's their right. I just wanted to try to answer Bryan's question.

     25 April 1999, 19:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: kirk.ticalc.org Opened
ticalc_chris

Yes, Magnus handles hosting, not Kirk. The launch of Kirk's site is completely independent from Mike Tussey's site moving to a new host.

Mike's site wasn't axed; he was given the choice of either removing a large section of his site or relocating it elsewhere to keep it intact, and it was better for both of us that he chose the latter. He gets to keep running his site as he likes, and we don't have to worry about hosting questionable content.

It doesn't seem reasonable to draw unnecessary attention to this. Mike's old address will continue to forward to his new one for a month, giving him plenty of time to get the word out.

Chris

     25 April 1999, 11:39 GMT

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