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Public apology
Posted on 10 November 1998, 03:36 GMT

Recenly, rumors have surfaced concerning a "hack" of the TI-Files site. However, no one has stood up and taken responsibility for the incident.

Therefore I am coming forward to say that I was a part of the incident. Two former members of the TI-Files gave me their FTP passwords (before the accounts were removed) and I logged into the TI-Files site and deleted the main directory (including the index.html file).

My actions caused chaos in the TI-Files community and reflected poorly on myself and ticalc.org. I deeply regret what I did and it will never happen again.

- Bryan Rabeler

 


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Re: Public apology
Hummmm Hummmm  Account Info

come no people it dont mater about load times or aneything ells thay both have good load times of under 1 minut and thats all that maters

     2 February 2000, 18:04 GMT

Re: Public apology
David

Ok, how to respond to this...... hmmmm....uhhh.... Don't do it again?

no, seriously though, it's a good site, I go there more often than here because of faster loading and downloading times, and I would appreciate it if you would refrain from deleting their site.
Thank you for you cooperation.

(sounded professional, didn't it?)

     10 November 1998, 04:15 GMT

Re: Re: Public apology
Jimmypop

Faster download times? 99% of the files download in less than 3 seconds...

     10 November 1998, 12:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Public apology
Ginseng
(Web Page)

Yeah, and crack makes you smarter. That java counter doesnt load in 3 seconds, and neither does the left OR right frame.

     10 November 1998, 22:04 GMT


Re: Faster Donwloads
Jimmy
(Web Page)

For me it takes a total of 2 secs to load both frames and the counter at the same time. It takes about a sec to download just about any program in the archives, including actual download time, not just loading. I guess thats the advantage of running off a T1 line.

Jimmy

     11 November 1998, 00:20 GMT

Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
Jeff Min
(Web Page)

I prefer ti-files over ti-calc (that seems to be the cool thing to do nowadays), but there's only one real irk that... irks me :) about it. Links to other sites end up in the right frame, while the left frame is still there. Ti-files has to start setting the default target to "_top" rather than any one frame.

     11 November 1998, 02:29 GMT

Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
David

Pardon us who don't have T_ cables or ISDN lines or god knows what else. The fastest download speed I have gotten in 2 years was 3.34k per second. My 33.6 modem averages 1.2k per second. Ti-calc.org takes about a minute to load. Ti-files takes about... what.. say... 20 seconds.

     11 November 1998, 22:37 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
The Great aArdvark!
(Web Page)

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. I have a 28.8kbps modem and I average 1.5k/s. I normally receive large files at over 3k/s and occasionally in excess of 4.

I checked exactly how much data had to be sent in order to load the main page for each site. Ticalc.org's main page was 50902 bytes (including pictures and frames etc). TI-Files was 80843 bytes. Not a major difference. The Java Applet on TI-Files adds about thirty seconds to the amount of time it takes to load on my computer, which is longer than it takes ticalc.org's entire page to load. TI-Files's server is also (understandably) slower than ticalc.org's.

I also tested the load-times of each main page. This was by no means scientific, but TI-Files took 59.42 seconds to completely load. Ticalc.org took 18.61 seconds to load (from an empty cache obviously). After rereading your posting, I have concluded that you just mismatched the names when you typed it (because you would have been right on the money if you had switched them).

     12 November 1998, 07:31 GMT

Like heck that''s not a diff.
Terence Lindsey

Hehe... so you are saying that TI-Files is 60% faster transfer rate than TICalc.Org... didn't u say that's not a major different in performance... like heck it isn't. That's like the performance gain for a non-3d accelerated PC to a 3D accelerated one.

     12 November 1998, 19:36 GMT

Re:something else
Dirk

wasn't this supposed to be about an apology for hacking ti-files??

i personally dont care which site i go to but i use ti-files cuz i discovered that one first

but you can have your squablles about speed i dont care

at least try to stay on task

     13 November 1998, 21:24 GMT

Re: Like heck that''s not a diff.
<unknown>

Actually, a PC with a good 3D accelerator is much faster and has better image quality than the equivalent one without. Maybe you don't play computer games (which is what 3D cards are made for) or have a crappy 3D card.

     19 November 1998, 21:52 GMT

Re: Like heck that''s not a diff.
Rob

Is it just me, or do these people have a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF TIME ON THEIR HANDS??? Who cares which one downloads a 50K calculator file half a second faster than another site? As far as quality of content, each site has its own strengths and weaknesses. To each be their own on which one they choose, but DAMN...to analyze it to the extent as these guys is sheer madness.

     20 November 1998, 01:48 GMT


Re: Like heck that''s not a diff.
The Great aArdvark!
(Web Page)

Terrence Lindsey said:
> Hehe... so you are saying that TI-Files is 60% faster transfer rate than TICalc.Org... didn't u say that's not a major different in performance... like heck it isn't. That's like the performance gain for a non-3d accelerated PC to a 3D accelerated one.

Um, were you high or something when you read what I wrote? Ticalc.org is faster. That is quite apparent when you actually read my comment. TI-Files is 60% LARGER, not 60% FASTER (you idiot). When 60% is only bytes, it does not make a significant difference.

     20 November 1998, 04:29 GMT


60% faster
Terence Lindsey

TI-Files still loads up 60% faster on my computer either way. TI-files is STILL faster as far as transfer rate of bytes/seconds... I'm not saying which loads up first, I've referring to which is actually faster. Also, what browser you are using, operating system, computer, compression, ISP, modem speed, distance, etc takes in effect which will load faster.

     24 November 1998, 23:12 GMT


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00geeky

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     9 May 1999, 18:21 GMT


Re: How thin can u go?
Catty Noodle

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     26 June 1999, 17:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
David

No, thats not what I menat. Ti-Files loads faster on my comp, and my modem is cheap. BTW, you must A. be really bored or B. have no life to calculate all that stuff.

     13 November 1998, 21:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads

And Dimension-TI is the fastest cuz it has no frames :)

     15 November 1998, 01:38 GMT

Load times on 28.8k
Lord Unigamer

I have a 56k modem that never connects at faster than 28.8k. TI-Files has a nice page, but it is down half the time (plus that stupid IP address... Ticalc.org has that nice domain name). TI-Files never seems to have a decent load time for me, and that frickin' Java applet takes FOREVER! Ticalc.org is relatively quick loading, except for comment pages :)

The only problem with my connection is that half the time my modem drops it, or the connection is bad, and gets worse and worse until it disconnects.

     25 November 1998, 13:07 GMT

TI-Files'' Domain Name
TXman

Actually, TI-Files has a nice domain name, as well: "ti-files.org" (<http://www.ti-files.org>)

     27 November 1998, 23:32 GMT


Connection is limited to the slower modem
Rackford Smith  Account Info
(Web Page)

OK, let's say that I'm gonna connect to a site whose server is running a 28.8 modem, but I have a 56K, the connection is limited to the slower modem- in this case- 28.8K. I'm not saying that Ti-Files is running at 28.8 because I don't know.

But anyway- I definately like Ti-Files better than this excuse for a good domain name.

Sorry for the off-topic post KIRK!!!!

     16 September 1999, 02:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
bob

I AGREE WHOLE HEARTEDLY. Let's cry about 1 or 2 seconds people.

     6 December 1998, 04:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
Chris Snyder
(Web Page)

You need a new ISP. I just loaded this document at an average of 10K a sec on a 33.6.

     21 November 1998, 04:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
The Great aArdvark!
(Web Page)

Hmm... maybe it's you who needs the new ISP. I just downloaded this TEXT document at what appeared to be 10kbps from my 28.8. Try downloading a binary file that takes five minutes and then see the average speed.

     22 November 1998, 00:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
Jack Dangers

I would HOPE you get atleast 10kbps when you download on a 28.8 modem, because 10 kilobits per-second equals (roughly) 1 kilobyte per-second.

     23 November 1998, 03:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
me

Who cares about download times? This article is about deleting somebody else's files!

     16 March 1999, 23:31 GMT


Re: Re: Faster Donwloads
Brent

Guess what buddy - It's not your T1 line. It's becuase the site is in your cache. You visit it so much it makes a carbon copy of it on your computer. That's why it takes 2 seconds to load.........

     29 January 1999, 01:15 GMT

Re: Public apology
Dr Octagon
(Web Page)

Ya! Let's screw some more TI sites over! TI-Calc Forever! Everybody else's TI sites suck. Kill the competitors. Monopolies rule! Anybody have Texas Instruments pw's? Let's wipe them off the map.

     11 November 1998, 02:09 GMT


Re: Re: Public apology
PhilAnderson
(Web Page)

Actually LETS NOT screw TI over. Cool company! All the way! MY ti-85 link port busted with 3 days left in the 1 year warranty. So, they sent me a new one FREE and it is cool.

Also, i disagree with your URL. What the heck? I don't think so.

to the speed issue- i dont care about speed. TI CALc is the biggest TI site i found. I like it. So i don't really care.

no, monopolies don't rule either. ever read the rules of posting stuff on these sites-NO FLAMES ETC> so whatch what you say.

Age of Empires RULES
All the way
contact me by ICQ #14799332

     14 November 1998, 01:50 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Public apology
Lord Unigamer

Exactly. TI is actually a good company, with good information on their website. Ticalc.org is the best and biggest place on the web for programs. They work good TOGETHER, not AGAINST each other!

As far as TI-Files though, they're way behind on archives and technology. And they are way behind, in the fact that Ticalc has a (real) domain name and TI-Files doesn't. That means something to a lot of people, including me.

     25 November 1998, 17:32 GMT


Monopoliez!
Billy-Bob Gates
(Web Page)

Monopolies...they da fuckin'bomb!

     9 May 1999, 18:28 GMT

Re: Re: Public apology
Bishop

Just becaused he apologized doesn't mean everything is fine and dandy now! He is not taking enough heat from you guys!!! He cracked and then hacked a site (actually his arch-rival's if Im not mistaken) and DELETED the index (?) page! That is not very forgiveable. Thats a lot of hard work down the tubes - its like this guy stealing that guy's science project and then destroyiing it so he will win the science fair.

Apologizing just doesnt cover it!

     11 November 1998, 09:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Public apology
Jonathan Kaus

You dont understand. When anyone makes a website that they are serious about, they have backups. In fact, usually, they never even do anything to the actual webspace, they make all modifications elsewhere and then copy it all over to the webspace wehn they are done updating it. This is called publiching it.

Bryan knew this, and so he knew it wouldnt be that big of a deal. Its not.

Now, I am not saying that it wasnt wrong, but jsut that it _was_ a fogiveable offense. He apoogized, and ti-files spent very little actual downtime because of this, and therefor all is forgiven.

     11 November 1998, 21:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Public apology
David

Forget about that backup CD? It probably took them 25 minutes to fix everything.

     11 November 1998, 22:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Public apology
codelogic
(Web Page)

you're exactly right, apologizing doesn't forgive it bryan, now we're also forced to publically praise you.
send flames to codelogic@efnet

     20 November 1998, 03:55 GMT

Hey Bryan. Got proof of your BS right here.
Shaun (Emp) McCormick
(Web Page)

Hey! Guess what. I'm gonna delete ticalc.org's main dir, and post an apology on
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5256/
And I'll be respected and pitied by everyone! I'll be a hero! My site will gain 1,000,000s of hits! I'll feel sooo good! And no one will be angry, cause I apologized! Why don't we all do this, we wouldn't get in trouble! Heck, let's go smoke crack! We could just say we're sorry!

     12 November 1998, 03:35 GMT


Re: Hey Bryan. Got proof of your BS right here.
Chris Musolf
(Web Page)

I love it Emp.
Love this comment..ya gotta
=)

     12 November 1998, 17:48 GMT

Re: Re: Public apology
Mastermind
(Web Page)

Actually I think the Files deserved what they got. Unlike ticalc.org, they are completely unprofessional. I have heard both of the former mem bers storuies and I don't sympathize with the Files. All that I hve to say is that Ti-Files brought it upon themselves by 1. Pissing their members off and 2. Not deleting their accounts before they were released

     15 November 1998, 18:04 GMT


Re: Re: Public apology
larmydoogle

I have a cat named Sir Williamton of Bruscles.

(But my dad said I can't go in the deep end. That's where I saw the leprican. He tells me to burn things.)

     25 November 1998, 02:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Public apology
Critic

What the heck was that? no relevance at all to the subject at hand.

     6 December 1998, 23:29 GMT

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