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Cymbol v0.1 Released
Posted on 1 September 1998, 01:49 GMT

[Cymbol Screenshot]
Kirk Meyer's response to the recent discussion about the lack of assembly math programs is the release of Cymbol v0.1 for the TI-86. This is a unique program that is very customizable. It supports applets and you only need to load the ones you need on your calculator. Three applets are included in this version: Quadratic Formula, Square Root Reducer, and Logarithms with Bases. Kirk will soon release the applet format so others can write their own applets.

 


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Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Chris

school starts this thurs. please release it soon

     1 September 1998, 02:23 GMT


Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Nate Thompson

It is released.

     1 September 1998, 02:38 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Chris

no no no... the source or whatever so other programmers can make the applets

     1 September 1998, 17:17 GMT

Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
NickD
(Web Page)

VERY impressed. Kinda puts all the algebra/geometry 86 BASIC math progs I've piled onto ticalc in past months to waste =)

     1 September 1998, 02:43 GMT

Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Robby Gutmann

This is so freaking cool!!! I share your feelings, Kirk, about the use of the calculator in the classroom, which is why the only ASM programs I released (zdist and zfactor) were math progs. I can't wait until you release the format, so I can convert those to it, and write new stuff. If you suddenly felt a need to email me the format so I could start as soon as possible, hey, I wouldn't complain. Just a thought.

     1 September 1998, 03:03 GMT


Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
S.T.L.
(Web Page)

Excuse me, but (as the one who started the discussion about the lack of asm math progs) I would like to ask a favor of you. When you write Zfactor, please use the Wheel Factorization method so it is as fast as possible. (I'd bet anything your Zfactor uses Baby Trial Divide right now.) Any good page on Number Theory would cover it, or you could look at the program PRIME2 (which seems to be the fastest TI-Basic factoring program around.) (Yes, it is mine.) Or, if you wait a day or two, PRIME4 should be out. I would LOVE to see an asm factor program faster than PRIME4. :-D
STL

     2 September 1998, 01:10 GMT

Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Odd-Eye

Nice program. Its about time someone released a decent asm math program. Too bad I have an 83 though :( Anyway, I've been working on a quadratic formula program in assembly for my 83 as my first asm program, but I've been having a bit of trouble. Do you think you could release your source as a reference?

     1 September 1998, 05:02 GMT

Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Rolf Brown

Now this is a great program.. I think this has potential to be one of the best non-games programs written so far for the ti86. It'll be great when the applet routines get released!
Some ideas for applets- A closed interval numerical intregrator.. Physics equation type things.. A pascal's triangle row calculator.. Hmm..

     1 September 1998, 10:46 GMT

Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Cody Zimmerman

How about applets for the midpoint formula and the distance formula. I'm taking Pre I.B. Geometry in 8th grade and I could really use applets for those.

     1 September 1998, 16:28 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Kirk Meyer
(Web Page)

I am, in fact, creating a midpoint/distance applet, and a triangle applet, and other miscellaneous ones as well as ones for physics (as I am in physics now)

     2 September 1998, 01:01 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Duke

I love the program Kirk. I am also glad to see that you are coding Physics applets as I am also in Physics. I went through Chemistry last year without a TI and am just now realizing how much work I could have saved myself!! Please release those Physics applets as they are completed. Are you planning any Pre-Calculus applets? :) Just a thought.. I guess calc/pre-calc stuff would be the same.

     2 September 1998, 03:09 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Cody Zimmerman

Thank you so much! Are the applets also in assembly? I don't know assembly so if they are I'll have to depend on the ideas of others. I hate that!!!!

     2 September 1998, 05:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Chris

i'm in physics too! (and algebra)

     2 September 1998, 16:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
S.T.L.
(Web Page)

Wow - an IBster!
Welcome to the horrors that are IB...
I'm in IB Math Methods II. :-D
The midpoint and distance formula are simple enough to be made in TI-Basic, you know.

     2 September 1998, 01:11 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Cody Zimmerman

I haven't even started I.B. Geometry yet. The teacher who I haven't even met yet gave me and all the other 8th grade Geometry kids homework over the summer!! And programming them into BASIC would be easy but I'd like to just add the applets I need to Cymbol instead of all these different BASIC programs. It's just more convenient to have multple applets for one program.

     2 September 1998, 05:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Rolf Brown

Wow.. All this stuff about IB in Junior High and everything.. Hehe, when I went through high school, I went to, at the time, one of four schools in the US offering a full IB curriculum. IB at the Junior High level was unheard of.. Well, this is a rather pointless comment I suppose, but IB math was great for me when I went onto calculus, I skipped trig all together. Great stuff.

     2 September 1998, 10:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Cody Zimmerman

Well I took high school Algebra in 7th grade so I had to move up to Geometry and Pre I.B. Geometry is the only kind they offer for students my age. I went from 7th grade math in 6th grade to Algebra in 7th so at least I got to skip 8th grade math.

     2 September 1998, 14:36 GMT


Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
chris
(Web Page)

hell i have Ap calc, Adv Chem ,amd Physics and i'm glade to see this progy!

     3 September 1998, 04:32 GMT

Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Programmer

Very nice job Kirk!

I am glad to see that someone has finally programmed something useful for the ti calculators. I am hoping that others will follow you and make these types of programs for my 85. Continue your good work. You should work for TI! You can program assembly for them and release cool stuff like those math programs.

Two thumbs way up!
You deserve a pat on the back!


     1 September 1998, 10:47 GMT

A Port?
Phil Killewald
(Web Page)

Could someone get a hold of the source from him to work on a port for different calculators? I'd like one on my 83.

     1 September 1998, 21:09 GMT

Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Jesse Gruca

I, too, have wondered why there has been a lack of ASM math programs. I agree that not only does this program have great potential, but that it needs to be ported to the 83 and 85. Soon.

How big are the applets?

     1 September 1998, 21:18 GMT


Re: Re: Cymbol v0.1 Released
Kirk Meyer
(Web Page)

The applets depend on what they do. The largest one (quadform) is about 700 bytes I think... the others are smaller. Once I get kinks worked out I will release source to the main program and the applets.

     2 September 1998, 01:04 GMT

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