Re: TIB: Form


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Re: TIB: Form




>Grant Stockly wrote:
>>
>> Naw...phreaking and cracking is still arround

I know they are not the same.  I said they were still arround.  Yes, I have
numerous (100MB on phreaking) and its all fairly new.

>Cracking has nothing to do with phreaking. Phreaking (aka
>phone-phreaking) is the use of loop lines and fake numbers in the
>telephone companies' systems. This was very popular once and carried
>with it numerous cases of fraud. An excellent tool for hustling.
>Do people really still do this? The boxes (black-box, blue-box etc.) are
>no longer made, simply because the lines are more secure now (digital,
>not analogue) so one would think they'd fixed the other problems as
>well. I think the calling card biz is dying too, isn't it?
>
>> ...btw, anyone who , by the
>> 80s definition, programs is a hacker.
>[...]

I just misspelled programmers.  That is what I said.

>Not quite correct. The definition still goes. When you hack something
>(usually a particular program) it is synonymous with the act of coming
>up with a brilliant solution to a difficult problem. Improving the speed
>of an algorithm by attacking it in a new and innovative way is surely a
>hack. A good example is the invention of binary sorting. Binary sorting
>has been mathematically proved to be the fastest way of sorting by
>comparison of elements.
>You can also hack a system by finding holes in the sourcecode and
>exploiting them.
>This has given rise to the "popular" definition of the word, which
>merely implies that you break into a security system.
>Personally, I swear to the original definition.
>
>--
>          Rene Kragh Pedersen
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>Apparently my clothes are defective.
> - Dilbert.



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