Make a program kbdprgm* with only the command ClrEnt. Then put some stuff on the home screen (so there is stuff to clear). Then run the program with <> *. The lower right corner of the screen hasn't changed to 0/30. -- Daniel Moraseski http://members.xoom.com/spui/ - FL and NJ roads, and also a list of all (well, most) SPUIs King of irrelevant info in Orlando, FL; originally from Manalapan, NJ