You know, I've not noticed it to be any slower. I mean, I know that it IS, but it's not so much that I've noticed it. (I have an 86 now, used to have the 85.) The other benefits of the 86 far outway the slowdown. >86s are slow because they have more than 1 page of RAM, and the paging is >pretty slow. 85s have 1 page of RAM and never have to switch.