For inverted text, just XOR your text with black (FF) or NOT it (exactly the same though NOT is faster cuz it only uses one var !) For a FII sample (Sorry Dave but I'm LAZY ;) just have a look at my page ! -- Contact me at : Jerbom@wanadoo.fr Yves.Rollet@wanadoo.fr Jerbom@Hotmail.com ICQ (UIN) : 8645588 My homepage : http://titools.home.ml.org