Re: A89: RE: Radio link protocol : Use the one that's already THE stand

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Re: A89: RE: Radio link protocol : Use the one that's already THE standard in computers.


Let me answer this response to my post.

1) I did not once suggest using ham radios, the gear associated with them, or the frequencies to
which the laws you speak of apply.  I suggested the protocol only.  Any half duplex radio
transceiver (that transmits and receives on the same frequency) can be used.  And those can be
made about the same size as the infrared transceiver.

2) Everyone can start using this if a simple library is written, for ANY task that would use a
radio link.

--- Patrick Sweeney <psweeney@geocities.com> wrote:
> This is getting really stupid.  Pirate radio stations and talk of Ham radios.
> This is a calculator list!
> Anyway, a "ham" radio is short for amatuer radio.  You must be LICENSED to use
> these bans and radios although anyone can buy one.  There are major jail times
> and penalties even for the shortest range "ham" units.
> Packet radio, using a tnc has been going on for ages, since the ages of XT
> computers for communicating to local BBS services without making a phone call.
> It has fallen into disuse.  The point is, not everyone can just start using it,
> and for any task they feel like.
> Anyway, this isn't something you want on your calculator.  Although it works
> with a standard terminal program connected to a serial port, the device is big.
> Picture a big external modem.  And the radio gear to use it is just as bad,
> unless your the type to always carry a 2 way radio.
> I don't claim to understand all this stuff, but a good friend of mine hada setup
> and I questioned him about 5 years ago to see what it was all about.
> -Patrick
> psweeney@geocities.com
> 
> 
> 
> Javier wrote:
> 
> > What are ham radios ??
> > Javier
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Rob Rupertus <rob_rupertus@yahoo.com>
> > Para: assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Fecha: Martes 21 de Septiembre de 1999 22:23 p.m.
> > Asunto: A89: Radio link protocol : Use the one that's already THE standard
> > in computers.
> >
> > >
> > >A radio link protocol was developed long before most of the TI-8x
> > calculators existed and can be
> > >easily adapted for TIs.
> > >
> > >It is called packet radio, and is used to connect two computers (even
> > different kinds) via ham
> > >radios.  All calculators would be tuned to the same frequency.  Each
> > calculator would be assigned
> > >a different call sign or a numerical address.  When a transmission occurs,
> > the calculator would
> > >send its call sign, and ALL for a message to all other calculators, or the
> > intended receiver's
> > >call sign (for operation like a regular link), and the message.
> > >
> > >Since packet radio has already been proven to work and is already a
> > standard in radio data
> > >transmission, it would end the never ending discussion about how radio
> > links should transfer data,
> > >and it would allow actual work to be started.
> > >
> > >----
> > >
> > >With TIs, this could be further enhanced with the following :
> > >
> > >Free the user from having to find out a unique call sign...If it is a
> > calculator with its serial
> > >number in ROM (like the TI-89), the serial number could be used.  To
> > prevent confusion if, say, a
> > >TI-92 and a TI-89 have the same serial number, the calculator model number
> > (i.e. 89 for TI-89)
> > >would also be included.
> > >
> > >If DOOM receives a chat message, it might become confused.  So, in any
> > message being sent out,
> > >include the application name.
> > >
> > >If there are two different games of DOOM running, they would get confused
> > by each other.  So, in
> > >addition to the application name, include a channel number or name (one for
> > each different DOOM
> > >game or chat conversation).
> > >
> > >There could be application and channel names, such as DOOM,OPEN, where
> > information, such as DOOM
> > >games that are accepting new players, can be broadcast.
> > >
> > >----
> > >
> > >Some nice benefits :
> > >
> > >Since it would be a standard protocol, it would enable calculators to use
> > one set frequency
> > >without programs having to do much work to figure out whether a message is
> > for them and whether
> > >the data deals with that program.  For instance, if you are playing a DOOM
> > game, and your teammate
> > >shoots you because someone else was chatting and sent a message which DOOM
> > mistook for that
> > >teammate saying they fired a bullet.
> > >
> > >Programs could be written for and work between different models of
> > calculators, as long as they
> > >send the same format messages.  A simple instance is chat, which would be
> > easy to implement.
> > >Multiplayer tetris would be more difficult, but it would be nice to be able
> > to play something like
> > >this against your friend if you have a TI-85 and your friend has a TI-83.
> > Also, even nicer games,
> > >like DOOM could be written for different types of calculators.  A 3 or 4
> > player DOOM match would
> > >be great (8 would be awesome if it is possible).
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> 
> 
> 

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