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A89: Flash Programs...and my perosnal disgust with the ongoing crap threads on this list!!!




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Programs...and my perosnal disgust with the ongoing crap threads on this
list!!!
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For all you out there wondering about the comment on one of my last
messages, here's my original statement, but do to cussing and swearing,
the list would not post my message. I normally cuss and swear simply
because it gets your attention! Now I'll just have to resort to
out-witting and my generally increased knowledge of the 89 and 92+ as
well as the MC68000 processer. Oh yeah, I have a challenge for all you
out there, try and tell me what you think the specs on the 89s' processer
are, I can beat almost anybody, simply because I'm taking a college-level
course on Electrical Engineering, and the teacher has decided that he
wants us to learn MC68000, what a break for me!

Oh yeah, I'm going to try to break TgAardvarks record for most posts, so
bear with me, and if you're wondering, I don't sit at my computer all day
long, but since this is just so goddamn outraging at the thought that you
guys are all f***ing insane and have gone so freaking crazy, I think
somebody needs to state, what needs to be said! I'm going to e-mail TI
about this, see what they think, and I'll tell you this, if they release
a ROM-Feature-Upgrade for the 89/92+, that includes internet browsing
software, and then they release a calc-modem that they endorse, then I'll
buy it, and for one reason only. On-line help when I have [problems with
stuff.

Original message:

Ok, first, the I-net program. One, if the program is stored in either the
RAM or the ARCHIVE, it will be erased during a reset. Second, feature
upgrades write themselves to the Flash ROM chip, when the calc crashes,
it erases the Ram, and the Archive chip, not the ROM chip, or else you'd
have to download your ROM code back to your calculator, every single time
your calc crashed. Ok, also the calcs' ROM code will not automatically
recognize the program after a crash, it looks for a certificate program
that tells the ROM where to look for the extra software, and also for the
the starting/ending block of memory in which it's stored, and the way to
load the software into the ROM. Basically, your calc will take longer to
re-boot after a crash if you have feature-upgrades installed. The only
way to make a permanent I-net program, or any program permanent for that
matter, is to write the program to the Flash ROM chip (NOT THE ARCHIVE
CHIP, BUT THE ROM CHIP!!!) and then develope a certificate program that
the ROM will look at when re-booting from a crash. 

I will say however, that I don't think there is anyway whatsoever that
this will be accomplished in the near future, as TI will not release the
certificate format to the public, and the only way to get it, would be to
hack the computer program that installs it. But, no feature upgrades
exist yet, so that isn't possible, unless you want to go through the
lines of the ROM 1 by 1 looking for something that might be the
certificate, yet you would have no idea what to look for since TI won't
release the format that the program uses. So, don't give too much thought
to the permanent program idea right now. Maybe when TI release the EE*Pro
software, but who wants to spend $75 just to get it, when it can't even
be mass distributed?! There is an individual certificate program for each
individual serial number on each individual ti-89 ever made. 

Last but not least. Remember, these are goddamn calculators for crying
out loud!!! Yes hardware upgrades/additional devices are nice, but we're
talking about a tool used for Math and engineering, not a computer, not a
laptop, not a pda, not a palm-pc. Think about what the hell you're
talking about! A full sized qwerty keyboard plugged into the link port?!
who in their right mind would carry one around at school anyway!!! If you
want a damn key-board, go buy the damn 92+, I did!!!The internet, you
want the internet, go get a Palm-PC, LapTop, PDA, or something, ok? these
calculators were never meant to have internet capability. Plus, no school
will allow students to plug a calculator or modem into a wall phone jack,
it is both district policies, and national policies that students can't
use phone/electrical lines in a school building for their own personal
use, the device plugged in must be tested school property, not the
individuals property. That's the same reason why you're not supposed to
be allowed to plug in anything of your own to  a wall power outlet! And
you're probably thinking, ok, a cell-phone then! Good idea, but not many
high-school, early college aged students are going to bring a damn
Cell-phone to school just to connect their fucking calculator to the
internet!!! Especially since most high-school's don't allow them, nor do
they allow pagers!!!! And when you get to college, you'll understand that
teachers don't tell you what you can and can't do, instead they simply
lecture, or give you labs, and then it's up to you. So when you're in a
lecture hall, you're not going to waste your time connecting your
calculator to the internet, you're going to be listening to the lecture,
trust me!!! Think about this ok?! You're talking about something that was
designed to calculate and compute symbolic equations, as well as regular
math equations, and do some higher-level engineering computing too. This
was never designed to be a freaking PDA!!! TI even makes a PDA with
internet capabilities and backlit display screen, why do you think they
didn't put these in their calculators?! If you want a PDA go buy a PDA,
don't buy a damn calculator! Oh yeah, and all you people who are so
hell-bent and determined to make their calculators connect to the
internet, you're all freaking wooses! You probably sit in your room all
day, playing on your computer, yanking yourself to an old Frank Sinatra
record/poster, and thinking about how you're gonna give some guy named
"Butch" or "Tyron"a "jump" the next time you see him!!! But ya know what,
that's ok. I don't care if you "putt from the ruff" but don't bring your
damn gay ideas to a serious list about assembly programming on the ti-89
graphing calculator. Keep them in your personal life, and in your pants,
where they belong!!!

Could you do me a favor, everyone reading this, go get your packaging to
your calculator, look at it, and tell me what it says. Does it say on
there anywhere, internet ready? How 'bout integrated 33.6kbps modem? Or
how about external keyboard sold seperately? And then for all of you
still not convinced, take the calculator, put it back in the packaging
along with the manual, batteries and link cable, then take it back to the
store where you bought it. Cuz you know what, you're too damn stupid to
own a calculator!!!!

         Michael J Mallon
"The Clueless Dream Reality"
 [The offspring: Americana]
   [The Kids Aren't Alright]

PS: For your information, I have some games on my 89. I have Zelda 89
(because I work/worked for CCIA) and SMQ with on-calc level editor,
because I'm beta-testing it (I got the copy from my best friend it's the
newest version that was released to ticalc.org). On my 92+, nothing. I
have no games on my 92+. Now don't call me a hypocrit so to speak for
beeing signed up to this list, I want to create a Flash update for the
calculator which will install a 3D figure building program, as well as on
calc basic-to-assembly compiler. I am trying to get TI to send the
company I work for (not CCIA) the specs on the Flash Feature Upgrade
certificate programs, but it hasn't worked yet. 

And Adam, just to let you know, the ti-80, is a graphing calculator, it
was TI's first Graphing calculator, my friend has one, and check TI's
website, it should still be up there. But the ti-80x isn't listed nor is
the 81, but I know it exists because my friend has it too. And could you
do me a favor and send me the specs on the 83+? I'm building a collection
of TI calcs, I have an 82, 85, 86, 89, and 92+, I was going to get an 83,
too, just for kicks, but if the 83+ is better, then I'll go ahead and get
it! (I'll also get the 83, eventually) Also, any plans on TI's website to
release an 86+??? I want to get every graphing calc that TI has made, I
can get an 81 for $10 and and 84 (yes it exists, my source is not
supposed to have his, but he kept it when he left TI) for around $150
(only because it is sooooo hard to find) a $73 for $70, and an 80 and 80X
for $35-40 each. then I should have every ti-graphing-calc ever made. Oh
yeah, in case you're wonderin' I "rent" my various calcs out to my
school-mates in exchange for lunch, money, etc. It's a great source of
Income for High School students (the college course that I'm taking, is
at my local community college. you guys should look into that, it's a
great source for knowledge, and if your counciler will approve it, it's
free, provided you can provide transportation. It's really awesome!!!)

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