Re: A89: PR Hit -- Those bastards

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Re: A89: PR Hit -- Those bastards


That would work except the 2.01 is almost half the size of the 1.00/05
And most hex editors compare and after the first difference, everything
below is different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe <joeknoll@myself.com>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: A89: PR Hit -- Those bastards


>
> wouldn't you be able to compare the hex of both programs and find out what
> changed?  Sure some of the jumps would have different values... but that
> could be compensated for ...and like someone else eluded to... there's
> always ways.  Oh, yeah... and on encryption... I heard that it's all based
> off of primes (one reason why security companies are so interested in
> finding bigger and bigger prime numbers -- the current one is pretty
big...
> it's like a 512 k txt file).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Dial <wrath@calc.org>
> To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: A89: PR Hit -- Those bastards
>
>
> >
> > No because you don't actually sign the apps yourself. You send them to
> > TI to sign them and then they'll send it back to you. So you never even
> > see the code that you would need to sign them yourself
> >
> > > Mark Scott wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the easiest way is for one person to buy this code that allows
> > > you to make flash apps and pass it around to everyone, therefore it
> > > makes no diff, it got paid for, and they won't be going back in the
> > > calcs and removing that code.
> > >
> > > Mark E. Scott Jr.
> > > mscott@databasecity.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Zavislak [mailto:felix@megsinet.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 9:55 PM
> > > To: assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org
> > > Subject: A89: PR Hit -- Those bastards
> > >
> > > If you think about all that has happened with the unauthorized release
> > > of
> > > ROM 2.01, including the bugs, assembly limitations, we must make TI
> > > pay.
> > > Keep in mind that all evidence is pointing to a conclusion that all
> > > new
> > > TI89's in production have 2.01 preinstalled.  Add that to the fact
> > > that TI
> > > did not want the key "rogue" programmers to have it before official
> > > release.  Notice still that they have not produced any responses to
> > > this
> > > prerelease of 2.01 either.
> > >
> > > Oh, and did you notice how nice ROM 1.00 and HW 1.00 were so nice for
> > > programmers?  And then they release HW 2.00 making it impossible to
> > > implement greyscale.  And ROM 2.01 limits the asm size to 8k.  And the
> > > fact
> > > that you have to pay to make even _freeware_ flash rom programs.  And
> > > how
> > > they keep all internal information secret even though they "support"
> > > assembly programming.
> > >
> > > We now have three (realistic) options:
> > >
> > > 1) Hit them and hit 'em hard.  Spread the word of how they treated
> > > their
> > > most faithful customers who reccomended the calc to all of their
> > > friends,
> > > only to have themselves stabbed in the back.  This will be hard, since
> > > much
> > > of the market (i.e., teachers, clueless students) do not care about
> > > "nerds"
> > > with their calculator games.  Corporations don't care either, since
> > > they
> > > can easily handle the fee to program flash apps, and then release them
> > > at
> > > inflated prices.  Hope springs eternal.
> > >
> > > 2) Don't use the built in assembly except to implement a shell that
> > > executes the rest of the programs, disguised as DATA files.  Make sure
> > > that
> > > _everyone_ uses this format, not the built in format.
> > >
> > > 3) Switch to HP wholeheartedly.  I've been meaning to get my hands on
> > > one
> > > of 'em...
> > >
> > > More unrealistic options:
> > >
> > > 3) Crack the 512-bit RSA encryption.  This can be accomplished a
> > > number of
> > > ways, such as enlisting the help of cryptographers -- or maybe get
> > > your
> > > hands on some quantum computers.  Or -- even easier -- get a hold of
> > > the
> > > private key -- it shouldn't be that hard :)
> > >
> > > 4) Simply hack the 2.01 ROMS -- It aint gonna happen with all those
> > > new HW
> > > 2.00 calcs.  See how HW 2.00 *really* benefits TI?  --  I agree with
> > > the
> > > comment about the market in "older" TI89s.
> > >
> > > We must let TI know that their behavior is unacceptable.  They treat
> > > the
> > > community that ported ASM to most of their calculators and made TI
> > > popular
> > > like we don't exist.  The unofficial release of the ROM can really
> > > help our
> > > case, especially if we make TI look like fools come December 21 and
> > > full
> > > assembly and flash rom app support is already enabled.
> > >
> > > There.  My rant is finished.
> > >
> > > -Mark Zavislak
> > > felix@megsinet.net
> >
> > --
> > Scott "_Wrath_" Dial
> > wrath@calc.org
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