What type of program are you planning on making anyway? Most programs can fit inside the 8k limit, but if not they use external pictures (ex: mariolib), bloat to compress their programs. There are many ways to do it. In my opinion you should wait until you have a very large program to learn how to do that. Josh Gentry "Real programmers code in pen during math class." http://www.freewebz.com/jdgentry