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Re: A86: Re: Re: clem's homepage




I agree with what Dux said earlier in reply to this.  The only reason that
ASE (the basic launcher is called AShell...Ashell was a really old shell
back there with Iridus and Aurora...they did writeback which is bad) and
Rascall use basic is to be able to run basic programs and so clueless users
can run them without using the Asm( command.  The other shells don't have a
basic program to run them, and if ASE didn't load it's menu names from
AShell, you could run it with straight Asm( too.

Programming in basic is easy.  Sure, there are lots of tricks to learn (I
know plenty from my year and half with the 82), but there's not much point
to knowing them, because it's like fine tuning your Geo Metro to go 10 miles
an hour faster (might get it up to 85, hehe) when you could go out and buy a
Ferrari.  (comparing basic programming to asm...no matter how much you know,
your Metro isn't going to beat a Ferrari)

The only time basic programming is better, imho, is when you are writting
simple math programs (basically scripts).  Sure, basic will win.  That's
what it was designed for.  You have maybe 10 bytes for a formula versus an
entire page of op rom calls.  But for anything else, asm will always be
faster and smaller.

-----Original Message-----
From: ZeromusMog@aol.com <ZeromusMog@aol.com>
To: assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: A86: Re: Re: clem's homepage


>
>In a message dated 12/12/98 20:57:14 Pacific Standard Time,
>assets@eden.rutgers.edu writes:
>
><< a jealous basic guru was stalking him for a while .. the basic guru
must've
> have finally gone beserk >>
>
>That's just wrong. As I said on ticalc.org's boards, BASIC programmers
deserve
>some respect, too, and the BASIC community should recoginze the difficulty
of
>programming ASM. BASIC is a wonderful language that has many upsides, and
ASM
>is the same way. These two should not be in competition, but rather in
>harmony. If I rememer right, AShell uses Basic? So does Rascall? And how
many
>of you ASM programmers out there use string input in your programs? While I
>know that it isn't the ASM people causing trouble, just remember that.
>
>And if any BASIC gurus are reading this, ASM programmers have a tough job,
and
>just appreciate that there are people willing to spend hours making games
like
>zTetris rather than using BASIC to make a slow, almost unusable Tetris. I'm
>doing most of my programming on ASM now, but I still value BASIC as a
useful
>language for math and "flash card" programs.
>
>Let's give each other some respect.