[A83] Re: Apps: part II


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[A83] Re: Apps: part II




A localisation App-Var would be *extremely* useful. I translated the program
to Dutch (on-calc), because English element names are hard to remember (kind
of). Michaels suggestion is nice, too.

>How about a 16x10 B&W image for each of the first 100 elements then?
>
>
>>
>>
>>You have Elements confused with the game. My Elements is a science
program.
>>
>>--
>>Michael Vincent
>>Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
>>--
>>Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
>>Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Dan Weiss" <dwedit@hotmail.com>
>>To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 3:18 PM
>>Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Either:
>> > 20 frames of automatic animation for every object
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > Animation for the tile screen, and include contrast changer and contact
>>info
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > Add mini fast tunnel + knight moves + IceClimb
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Michael Vincent" <hookman@worldnet.att.net>
>> > >Reply-To: assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
>> > >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
>> > >Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
>> > >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:47:17 -0700
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I have 2817 bytes remaining in the app version of Elements. Any
>>suggestions
>> > >on how to use it?
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >Michael Vincent
>> > >Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
>> > >--
>> > >Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
>> > >Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Ronald Teune" <rtwolf@gmx.net>
>> > >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
>> > >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:12 AM
>> > >Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Ah! You made elements! Great program! Wouldn't it be possible to
>>convert
>> > >it
>> > > > to an app? If possible together with another program to don't waste
>>that
>> > > > 3000 kb.
>> > > >
>> > > > >I prefer TASM over ZDS though. There are subtle differences I
>>wouldn't
>> > >want
>> > > > >to live with. My reasoning is, if I've used TASM for years, and it
>> > >works,
>> > > > >why switch?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >--
>> > > > >Michael Vincent
>> > > > >Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
>> > > > >--
>> > > > >Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
>> > > > >Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > >From: "Dan Englender" <dan@calc.org>
>> > > > >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
>> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:25 PM
>> > > > >Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Yes, you could write the source in notepad, and use TASM to
>>compile.
>> > >I
>> > > > >> strongly suggest (assuming you're running windows) trying out
ZDS
>>for
>> > > > >> application development, but you don't have to use it.  A
>> > >ti83plus.inc
>> > > > >file
>> > > > >> that's usable with TASM is included in the MirageOS zip file
>>(TI's
>> > >is
>> > > > >> formatted for ZDS).
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Technically the calc doesn't skip all 128 bytes, it'll start
>>running
>> > >code
>> > > > >> somewhere in the middle of that pad of zeros (I don't remember
>>where
>> > > > >> exactly), but it doesn't matter as they're nops.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> In terms of what messes up on the Silver Edition, more or less,
>>if
>> > >you
>> > > > >don't
>> > > > >> turn on the "fast mode" of the silver edition, most everything
>>should
>> > >be
>> > > > >> compatible.  The one thing that definitely wont work are
>> > >games/programs
>> > > > >that
>> > > > >> use the link port in non-TIOS protocol.  The reason is that the
>>SE
>> > >has
>> > >a
>> > > > >> "hardware-assist" that automatically sends/receives link-port
>>data
>> > >(so
>> > > > the
>> > > > >> Z80 doesn't have to waste time doing so), and it'll get confused
>>if
>> > >you
>> > > > >> manually change the link port lines.  It may be possible to
>>disable
>> > >the
>> > > > >> hardware-assist, I haven't experimented enough to tell.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Hope this helps,
>> > > > >> -Dan Englender
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > >> From: "Harper Maddox" <gte172i@prism.gatech.edu>
>> > > > >> To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
>> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:09 PM
>> > > > >> Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > so by this methodology, you can write the source code in
>>notepad,
>> > >and
>> > > > >use
>> > > > >> > tasm to compile?  The APP automatically jump to the start of
>>the
>> > > > >> > application + 128 bytes, to "skip" the header.  Is that
>>correct?
>> > >if
>> > >it
>> > > > >> is,
>> > > > >> > then making a flash application is easier than i thought.
>>Also,
>> > >thanks
>> > > > >> for
>> > > > >> > sharing that bit about the header.  I know its in the help
file
>>at
>> > >TI,
>> > > > >but
>> > > > >> > the new education.ti.com site was pretty hard to navigate.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > also, Does anyone know what kind of stuff messes up between
the
>> > >silver
>> > > > >83+
>> > > > >> > and the 83+?  I noticed that Phoenix 83+ has the graphics off
>>by
>>a
>> > >few
>> > > > >> > bytes on the silver 83+.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Harper Maddox
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > ps. If this is the case, then I might port a few games to 83+
>>app
>> > > > >> > tonight.  So a swift response from anyone "knowledgeable" is
>> > > > >appreciated.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > At 04:21 PM 6/20/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>> > > > >> > >Addendum to previous e-mail:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >After you have compiled your app (use "tasm -i -o20 -80
%1.asm
>> > >%1.hex"
>> > > > >in
>> > > > >> > >a batch file), you must copy the .hex file to the C:\Program
>> > >Files\TI
>> > > > >> > >Education\TI-83 Plus Flash Debugger\Utils\ directory. Open a
>>DOS
>> > > > >window,
>> > > > >> > >and type "appsign 0104.key myfile.hex" where myfile.hex is
>>your
>> > >.hex
>> > > > >> file.
>> > > > >> > >Then send the *.8xk file it creates to your calc.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >Have fun
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >--
>> > > > >> > >Michael Vincent
>> > > > >> > >Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
>> > > > >> > >--
>> > > > >> > >Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
>> > > > >> > >Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
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