The ZShell release party This page contains a reference of the IRC session of the ZShell release party. Read and have fun. This is my (Magnus Hagander) log. Everything without a name is me saying it. *** IRC session log started at Tue Nov 21 19:21:59 1995. *zbadba* Hi Magnus! (This is Isaac) > Just so all know it. This IRC session is dumped to disk > Yes, zbadba, I remember your nick from last time.. Not quite as much +lag this time. It was 45 seconds+ that time.... I skipped class to show up. :) 78 Seconds to Piett!!!! > However, that does not mean it is too much lag now. Are you others ex +periencing lag between each others too? Lots of lag > Yep. Far too much. But we'll just have to live with it. There are som +e stupid people using the computer rooms here too, that slows me down... I've got a whole T1 to myself :) > hey, care to share with me? Not really. *zbadba* _PING 816978142_ > Man, this _IS_ slow. *zbadba* _PING 816978226_ Well, If you can figure out how, sure :) > phant: Well... You come over here with it? Ok, Let me go dig it up.. It's about 45 seconds to each of you from me. (__) <-- /oo\________ \ / \ \/ / \ \_|___\_|/.\ > Oki. Do that. You can have our 64Kbit in exchange > Piett - PLEASE! Everything takes too long anyway! || YY| o ' || || O <-- Be there in a sec ^^ ^^ Sounds like a fair trade.. > Good. I'm waiting for you. No release of ZShell until I get half your + T1. okey... What a bargin'... Boo! :) > Hey, anyone of you guys in 3 times on the FTP site? Very funny, I can't do much yet, cause internic hasn't updat +ed our DNS > Hmm.. That's too bad! However, you don't have to share it with anybod +y.... > Hmm.. Just to bring my line down. Anybody with WWW access? try http:/ +/www.rbk.sollentuna.se/~mha/zshellfan/ :) Magnus, I'm not getting a ping off of you. That's strange. Tr +y pinging me. Yep, FTP goes fast *phantom* _PING 816978544_ > I can't ping. This is because I have some stupid kind of client... We + only maintain Windows clients here (yuck), so we don't have a good one for Li +nux. *** Knoebi <~yet@dd04-010.compuserve.com> has joined channel #ti-calc > hey. Piett. Welcome to the FTP site... hi dudes... Oh, I see. is it already out? > Hi knoebi, who might you be? > No, it is not out yet. philipp knobel > Ok. Well. So many from compuserve, I just can't keep all names. At le +ast we don't seem to have so much lag between us :) H Knoebi #ti-calc 6 Hans Rudolf Knobel ~yet@dd04-010.compuserve.com H zbadba #ti-calc 6 I love my Atari ~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu H phantom@ #ti-calc 7 irc.law.emory.edu ~will@205.217.100.39 H MangeH@ #ti-calc 0 Magnus Hagander ~mha@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se H Piett@ #ti-calc 0 Henrik Edlund piett@zen.kuai.se brb quit *** Signoff: zbadba (Leaving) > Why quit? Stay with us! where are the others from the mailling list? > Nobody here yet. Rob should show up, and Dan should try. SphinxSoft s +aid he'd probably be here too.... So we're waiting.. yes.. i rest here for the party which is going on here! > Yes. Anybody but me wearing party-hats? Magnus, what's you ftp site? > ftp.rbk.sollentuna.se /pub/TI-Calc/ti-85/zshell is what you're lookin +g for. magnus: are there any new implemetation expect support for 9 +and 10? support zshell now 5.0? > ZShell supports 9.0 and 10.0. even 3.1 supported 5.0, or? H Knoebi #ti-calc 6 Hans Rudolf Knobel ~yet@dd04-010.compuserve.com H phantom@ #ti-calc 7 irc.law.emory.edu ~will@205.217.100.39 H MangeH@ #ti-calc 0 Magnus Hagander ~mha@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se H Piett@ #ti-calc 0 Henrik Edlund piett@zen.kuai.se > Now 6 users on the FTP. :) none... 3.1 doesn't support 5.0. *** zbadba <~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu> has joined channel back again. iam number 7 in a few secons (With an FTP connection at the same time) > Hmm.. It does not? I thought it did. Anyway, 3.5 did. I _THINK_ we ha +ve support for it. At least it should start. If it bugs, we'll fix it in ZShel +l 4.1. It is actually something I never heard from Dan....... > 8 users on the FTP. This is interesting... > (The reason I say I think, is that I don't have the source here. I'm +not at home) 3.1 support 5. that's what new in it from 3.0 > Piett: thought so. Because the doc:s say it, and the source says it I + think. 3.1's support of 5 was buggy. 3.5 worked, I believe. > Hey! Who's the guy on the FTP site that does not give his domain?? soory at all... i will kick my 5.0 friens... Apparently, 3.1 should have worked, but didn't because of som +ething small. > Whoops. Maybe I've reinvented the bugs. We'll see. mangh.. i have some probs... > Hmm.. Don't know whether we took that part from 3.5 or 3.1. All the c +ode in 3.5 is not in 4.0. is zs4.0 appearing in the /pub/TI-calc/incoming directory? > Nope. It is appearing in /pub/TI-Calc/ti-85/zshell directory, as zshe +ll40.zip and zshell.zip. When the time comes... :) H zbadba #ti-calc 6 I love my Atari ~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu H Knoebi #ti-calc 6 Hans Rudolf Knobel ~yet@dd04-010.compuserve.com H phantom@ #ti-calc 7 irc.law.emory.edu ~will@205.217.100.39 H MangeH@ #ti-calc 0 Magnus Hagander ~mha@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se H Piett@ #ti-calc 0 Henrik Edlund piett@zen.kuai.se Hey, it's 18:36 GMT! > zb: yes, I know. But all of you guys are not here yet. And I also sai +d that the party starts 18.30, not the release :) Boo! :) > Boo? what about "zshell me up" ? Just joking, Magnus > Hmm... ZShell does not have that capability. Yet. > Wanna see something fun? ZShell now exists on the FTP site.. Just a c +hmod away... :) ooh! brb *** Signoff: zbadba (Leaving) and he is out! hehehhe......! > Hmm.. You don't like zbadba? magnus: i'am on the way... > Hmm.. how many here thinks I should release it now, and we can keep o +n chatting afterwards? now in pub/ti-calc... i think you should w8 awhile > Ok. Then I'll wait a short while :) > let's hope to see some more people here. Is it that the timing was so + bad for the US guys? *** Signoff: Piett (Ping timeout) btw... are there also new versions of tetris and so ? Pobably, I skipped school to be here.. > New version of tetris: nope. *** Piett has joined channel #ti-calc > New version of texanoid: yes phantom: you are on the right way.. > New version of Dan's games: coming up. magnus: why are two zshell directories in /pub/ti-calc/ti-85? *** zbadba <~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu> has joined channel #TI-calc zbadba .. back again?... Got tired of sitting there listing the zshell directory repe +atedy watching for a mode change. :) *** JACOB <~bamse@ppp-11.kajen.malmo.se> has joined channel #ti-calc in my ftp i see the archive zshell40.zip... but you can't get it. > zYep, you can't get it. Permissions wrong..! FUCK IT! My Internet-suppliers name-server got jammed exactly +at this hour! > That's to bad. But now you're here? who is the programmer of ZShell? > I am. yeah..... a new guy... hi jacob Knoebi, hi! MangeH, ah, what happened the last 15mins? Anybody who has got + a log file or something? *** JACOB is now known as oskarl I've been logging.. > I have a log file, yes. It will be posted on a WWW site or something +once the release "party" is over. > I've been logging too...... gr8 > So... I repeat. Is there nobody but me wearing party-hats? > Oopps.. Really lots of lag right now. Anyone of you nuking my FTP sit +e. I'm not wearing a hat, but I am eating popcorn. > Popcorn? Also drinking Cola, I hope? i'm still angry at my internet-supplier. *** Signoff: Piett (Ping timeout) > You should all be wearing hats! I am! *** Olof <~oas_92@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se> has joined channel #Ti- +Calc _ACTION puts on his party hat_ > Hey. The ausbrinkare! Welcome here! *** oskarl is now known as OFF ->Bows> to the man who joins me with hats! Hello.. MangeH *** Piett has joined channel #ti-calc ->Bows> to the man wjo joins me with hats! *** OFF is now known as JACOB MangeH.. Nice Party-hatt _ACTION is now wearing his hat_ > Hey! He's in the same room as me. He KNOWS I've a hat. It's coo, rig +ht? anybody still here? MangeH, are you at school? MangeH... Yeah.. really cool I am.. _ACTION is still here_ *** Signoff: Knoebi () > Yep, I am. I'm logged in from my dormitory > always someting. I'm sitting in our server-room. I've thought about p +ulling the plug to the rest of the network. Just me and Olof on the internet *** Knoebi <~yet@dd04-010.compuserve.com> has joined channel #ti-calc -> MangeH... That sounds like a good idea > Hmm... Can you go down and do it for me, olof? Mind that you don't bring down your own systems or the ftp se +rver. Hmm... nja all the dammed sex pics trader should be kicked offffffffffff +..... so there is enuff speed on inet for us alll.. > Sure. There is a fibre-optic going out of here into the rest of the s +chool. Then another line to the internet. YES! I was connected to the FTP-server... > Knoebi: Sure. But. Nothing we can do :( > Just another reminder to new guys. This session is logged... MangeH, i was unable to download zshell40.zip at that director +y! that's the REAL life... heheh > That is true. ZShell40.zip is still locked. It is not yet released. > You guys think it's time? Magnus, when are you going to chmod?? > Dunno. What do you think? YES!! Sure! *** Dan_Eble <~Dan@S-98-195.resnet.ohio-state.edu> has joined channel # +ti-calc The Home Page is now UP! But not all graphics... I'll have o s +ee to that tomorrow... but it will work anyway.. Welcome... > Have fun guys. Finally!! Dan! You made it! > ******** ZSHELL 4.0 IS RELEASED!!!!*********************** mangeH.... when will you release the stuff lixom... > **************** RELEASED! ************************ *** Signoff: zbadba (Leaving) hello everyone. I got out of class early.\ > dan! JUST IN TIME, MAN! YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +!!!!!! YeAH... Party So, what have I missed? > throws his party hat into the air! everyone is leeching.... > Whoops. that was supposed to be an action! > Dan, BTW, are you wearing a pary hat? This is cool. I've never used IRC before. > So. Do you have a party hat? That's the main issue here! No. I'm not wearing anything, er... No. I have no party hat. > WHAT! WHAT! WHAT! I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST YOU ON THAT!!!! dan: know you will be a man.. heheh *** zbadba <~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu> has joined channel #TI-calc Got it i got it!.... So, Magnus, did you read your mail about TI-85.H? > What? ZShell? Start testing. And if it does not work, I will not be a +vailable. > Dan: No! Something horrible? got Zshell! magnus: it it doesent work.. your server will die.. heheh Well, I sent you mail a couple hours ago. There's a small t +ypo in TI-85.H *** Signoff: Piett (Ping timeout) There are two instances of "CALL_NZ" and "JUMP_NZ" and one +of each should be changed to "_NC" I'm gonna send it to my calc. BRB to tell if it is working OK +. *** Signoff: zbadba (Leaving) > Ok. All you guys. ZShell 4.0 is temporarily recalled. I will fix up a + small error. Stand by. what about that party ;) > Always a party. Hang in there! *** Piett has joined channel #ti-calc welcome to zshell 4.0 - party! Is the ZShell home page up again yet? > Nope, it is not! kewl... organise and texan with highscore... Where do I get ZS4, then. Did you remember to include Strin +g85 in the ZIP? great work magnus and dan! many, many thx! yes it is there, dan. I should have all my old ZS programs reassembled for 4.0 la +ter today. *** Signoff: Piett (Ping timeout) So, where is the place to acquire ZS4? Is it on your page, +Magnus? > Ok. Now we have a new ZShell 4.0. Fixed the small bug Dan came up wit +h. *** Piett has joined channel #ti-calc > Get it from ftp.rbk.sollentuna.se /pub/TI-Calc/ti-85/zshell/zshell.zi +p > Also, check out http://www.rbk.sollentuna.se/~mha/zshellfan/ Dan: The home page is uP! > Dan: will you send them up to my FTP-site? > Hmm.. Did somebody say something about string85? Olof says he saw som +ething about it.. > Anybody up and running on ZShell 4.0 yet (besides me)? string85 is int he zshell40.zip archive... yes.. sure... > Yes, it is. Yes, Magnus, I will leave now and reassemble all my old stu +ff. Yoo everyone! Visit the home page at http://www.kuai.se/~piett +/zshell/index.html! Now with 4.0! (No wonder, eeh) > Oki, Dan. Here from you l8er. *** Wbunaarf has joined channel #ti-calc *** Signoff: Dan_Eble (Read error to Dan_Eble[S-98-195.resnet.ohio-state.edu]: +Connection reset by peer) *** MangeH changed the topic on #ti-calc to: get ZShell 4.0 from ftp.rbk.sollen +tuna.se NOW! _ACTION is going to... :)_ > Do that. the size of the zshell 40 strings are excatly 8000 bye bye *** Signoff: Piett (Leaving) > Sorry. What is exacly 8000? Are there any new games/programs available? > TexaNoid and Organiser are included in the .85B, that's all right now +. Dan is assembling his as we speak. *** NumberSix has joined channel # +TI-Calc go into the ti-85/mem/ram screen... piett, see you later *** Pascal has joined channel *** Wedgo has joined channel *** RobT has joined channel > I don't have my -85 here. Are you saying that ZShell itself is 8000 b +ytes? > RobT, that Rob Taylor? mangeh: What's Organiser? Also,I guess that the Tetris-load +er won't work anymore? is there a version of texan for ZShell 4 ? Its in there. Magnus!!! Hullo there! Hi magnus! Hello Rob: Can you make a backup with ZS4 and ZS3.1 ? > Tetris loader: Does not work. Youre a bit late there, Magnus! MangeH, how fast is TexaNoid? > Organiser is by Rob, a time-manager style game. > Texanoid is fast enough. Compare it with a basic game. It is fast. An +d it spends >70% of the time in delay loops.. > Yes, texan is there for ZShell 4. > Hello everybody saying hello to me. This is getting much at the same +time! > But there is always lag to give me some time to read everyting. I HAT +E IT! You mean Rom backup/ ? (dodgy shidt key...) Yes hey, the ZShell home page works! > Yes, it does. Please chose to DL from ftp.rbk.sollentuna.se, since I +try to keep a count of how many people takes it down right away... Yep. *** zbadba <~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu> has joined channel #TI-calc Mange, how much faster is ZShell-programs than standard basic +program (approx) Hello Magnus ! back agin. > Approx.. I dunno.. Factor 100? Loads.. > Pascal: Hi. > Did somebody say something about ZShell being 8000 bytes? I'd like to + know.... > Is it just lag, or am I losing lines too? Tetris loader not needed any more. we rewrite tetris... > RobT: Have you heard anything from David? (query is an alternative) I didn't notice it... Rob, are you the arthur of Tetris? *** Knoebi is now known as FUN_W_ZS4 David? > David Boozer. > (or something) > Hey, guys. Don't forget http://www.rbk.sollentuna.se/~mha/zshellfan/ robt: Any idea when it (Tetris) will be available? Oh, not yet > It will be available when it's ready. We're working on it. Hey Magnus, I've got a problem in step 5 of the function test +. magnus.. i say: the strings from zshell 40 are exactly 800 +0. > zbadba: NO! Which one is step 5? What ROM? What is the problem? > Anybody else can check if the strings are 8000 bytes? *** calc <~daemon@sun02.ccii.unipi.it> has joined channel #ti-calc *** Mode change irc.ccii.unipi.it #ti-calc +o calc Step 5, the M_CHARPUT test appeas to do nothing on my rom 8.0 + calc. At least the program does not crash, but no "B" appears on the screen. FUN_W_ZS4: What do you mean? > Ok. I think I know that problem. It seems I may have forgotten one pa +rt. It is probably there, just outside the screen... Try runnign TexaNoid. If +it works, it all works. _PING 816981562_ *** calc has left channel #ti-calc (#ti-calc) fun with zshell 4.0.... Texanoid works fine. :) > Yeah, but what about the 8000 bytes.. Anybody else had this problem? +Could all please check, and inform us both on errors and success. dunno... > Zbadb: Ok. Then place the error at function tester. _PING 816981601_ I'm off the play with ZShell, bye *** Signoff: Wedgo () magnus: i have no problem with 8000 bytes........ nobody h +ave problem with it. > Hey. Still just one comment on the fan-page. What are you guys doing? + Playing with your party hats. What different rom versions are here? > Hmm.. Explain? It was not 8000 bytes, or? > (It should not be 8000... ZShell is not that large) > AAHH! Maybe I get it. They all TOGETHER are 8000? All of the strings together total exactly 8000 bytes. Is anyone else having IRC probs? > Ok. I get it now. Sorry. My mistake. > IRC works fine, but there is a lot of lag. > BTW, Rob, did you say you already had a bug-fixed version of Organise +r? Or was it me dreaming? organize is 4k+ What's wrong? brb Everyone seems to be pinging slowly - at least 1 minute fo +r everyone!! hmm.. *** Signoff: zbadba (Leaving) 10000 points for magnus.... > Yep. Organiser is large. It stores the data inside itself! #6: from time to time i have irc probs... I mailed it you... > Rob: Yeah. I got the new documentation...... And mailed you back.. *** calc <~daemon@sun02.ccii.unipi.it> has joined channel #TI-calc *** Mode change irc.ccii.unipi.it #ti-calc +o calc *** calc has left channel #TI-calc (#TI-calc) thats why its only five days! And I maied it you again!! robt: what about a address-book? password protected? > Whoops... To my rbk account? I told you to do that with imporant stuf +f. UL it to the FTP right away. It will be made available to those of you who +have already got the stuff down. It will then be included in ZShell.Zip. I'll think about it.....:) _ACTION thinks about thwapping robt... ;)_ > Rob: Thinking can be dangerous... You can overheat! anybody here has a "speed"-switch on the ti-85? *** Signoff: Pascal (irc.nijenrode.nl sil.polytechnique.fr) > Hmm.. Try putting a line from the wall power outlet into the link-por +t. Should scare it to speed. I can't, I'm on my friends machine.... :( > Rob: Rats. I will see if I can locate it. *laffs* > #6: ? FUN, what's a "speed"-switch? robt: i meet you a year ago in cis/texas instruments forum +..... Couldn't you change the crystal...or would other things ha +ve to be changed if you did that? > Hey. You guys actually meet? I don't tink I've met anybody on the lis +t......... It's at your other mail addr (e.kiet.se, or whatever) > RobT: e.kth.se, that is. KTH=Royal Institute of Technology. Reads rig +ht off? Not? Ok. I will check. > Just that the connection there is so slow... FUN_W_ZS4: who are you? jacob: "speed"-switch = a new codensator for the ti and th +e ti is 3 times faster.. approx... > Whoops. Is it good to have the error "System Wide Initialization file +s not found"... When trying to access new version of Organiser... That'd blow it up!!!! robt: Philipp or Hans Rudolf Knobe.... oh ??? I haven't heard of that... hmm...that dosen't sound to good magnus... Magnus: Oh dear...... > Shit. 52 messages in the inbox. Checking.. Stand by. *** alegory has joined channel #ti-calc robt: organis is working wonderful here... Philipp: so you actually got an internet account eventually? > The last of the 52.. Should have it any day... There is aproblem with the cursor dissapearing sometimes when +you switch days, this is now fixed... robt: i have a internet-account over cis... *** FUN_W_ZS4 is now known as Philipp CIS sucks!!! > ORGANISE.85S now available on the ftp site. > New version, bug fix according to Rob. *** sandtrip has joined channel #ti-calc *** zbadba <~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu> has joined channel #TI-calc robt: yes .. cis sucks... but my daddy pay it! It's world wide tho.. OK, made my comment on the ZSfanpage :) always a plus.. > rob: Well, that's good. > I get paid for being here. Dis you ever learn any Z80? sorry, 'did'... > Can everybody else please comment there too.. This has probably already been asked, but has anyone actuall +y tried ZShell 4.0?? yes, works great! except for vey minor bug in test program > Of course... I've run it for 2 weeks (at least)... brb *** Signoff: zbadba (Leaving) mangeH: where comment? Magnus: can you mail it to the list?? > Comment on the ZShell fan page, http://www.rbk.sollentuna.se/~mha/zsh +ellfan > Rob: mail what? New organiser? Yup. > Sure thing. Go ahead. However, ZShell itself hasn't been posted yet. +I will do that soon. I just want to get a lot of hits on the FTP site first :) *grins* *** zbadba <~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu> has joined channel #TI-calc > zbad: How come you leave and rejoin so often? RobT: what's the change in the organize string in zshell vs. +the new one on the ftp site magnus: Switching between irc and ftp and downloading with sz +. :P It's got a bug fixed (the cursor used to disapper sometimes) > zbad: No multitasking? OIC zbad:You own an Atari? > Shit. I can't get EMACS working. Was about to update the page at http +://www2.e.kth.se/~e95_mha/ti.html I'm using a dialup unix shell. > For your info. There is now a page on http://www2.e.kth.se/~e95_mha/P +ublic/zshell_ref.html which contains reference on the zshell functions. > zbadb: With PPP? yes, an Atari 7800 nope. just a shell. no SLIPor PPP. :( zbad: Oh I was thinking of the ST (they were great!) *** smack <~smack@naidp6.nai.net> has joined channel #ti-calc hello. hullo there... :) Yes, they were. Hi smack. Any Zshell questions? > So now he's here too... This is getting crowded. How nice. You all st +ill wearing your party hats? I am.... _ACTION gets his out_ > Thanks #6. _ACTION has his calculator at school. _*grmbl*_ We've been drinking champagne for hours... Magnus, does ZS4 include newer versions (are they needed?) of +the ASM games ZS3.1 came with? _ACTION opens the clebration bar... ;)_ is it 18:30 GMT yet? I'm on EDT. > No. It contains new version of TexaNoid, and Organiser. Dan will soon + reassemble his (he's working on it now). > It was over an hour ago..... It's 19:38 GMT... Any prospective Zshell programmers? > Me! Has got a 'hEllo World' program... not you! > Why not? working on it now as in now now, or as in now? :) I must hav +e Tetris. :) yes. has been for an hour. it's now 1930 Yes, here! I've only written one program so far, tho. > Yes, as in now now! > Jpwever, tetris will take a few days/weeks/months/years. > (probably not years, though) zbadba: what does it do? robt: i am.... correction - 2, but one was a test of some link routines. It was never released. Philipp: what do it do? Nice. in the meantime, let's check out what we've got so far.. I thought there was a nice Tetris loader, and wouldn't it just + involve support for a new ROM location? it was a connect4 with the right size....7*8....heheh... ;grins The link test just monitored the port and showed the status o +f the signal lines. It could also raise and lower the lines. The other program was to display greyscale pictures on the TI Very primitive. *** Ne <~edr@edr.vivid.net> has joined channel #ti-calc Hello! It's a start (Hey, Even I've wrote a Grey scale proggy!!!) Hi Ne Phillip: That's pretty good! > Been gone for a few secs. Anything interesting said? Magnus: does Dan already have a 92? > zbad: Yes, he does. "I thought there was a nice Tetris loader, and wouldn't it jus +t involve support for a new ROM location?" Thats trade secret you just revealed!!! > smack. No. Too many differents in new ROM versions. zbadba: can i have your link test program? RobT, you've got a Grey Scale prog for the 85? I want a 92. ::whimper:: > Ne: Pay for it, and you'll get it... When time comes. *** Signoff: alegory () _ACTION would like a 92 as well..._ So do I but even TI don't know when it'll come out in the UK.. +:( :( What's the word on ASM on the 92? Will it be possible? > It might be, but nobod knows. I think it's coming out for chritmas...or so I've heard *** Signoff: sandtrip (Ping timeout) The 92 has a 68000, so we need some 68000 programmers...an +y one out there? ;) Ther currently doesn't seem o be an easy way, but ther is a rom + connection inside, so we will manage something > Hmm.. Can anybody access http://www2.e.kth.se/~e95_mha/ti.html? What Zshell file is for Rom 10? NumberSix, i'm a 68000-programmer > I can't I'll try now...hold on a few ticks... I'n a 68000 programer and I;m working with Dan a th the moment. +.. > ZSHELL.ZIP (ZSHELL40.ZIP) is for all ROM's. Just transfer the .85B an +d go. JACOB: what did you program on? Philip RobT, an Amiga JACOB: Oh, I was ST!! > Oh man, all these people without computers... (Ok. let's NOT start a +debate on which computer is best) cool Philipp: Sure - I'll post it + source to the zshell list when + I get it reconfigured for zshell 4.0 Oh, I'm over all that now (they're all pretty pappy.....) i'm Zshellin. RobT - how are you going to hook into the 92? What's up with +the custom menu? > Good. _ACTION is trying to get onto www2..._ Is there a faster Tetris for Zshell? > #6: Probably no idea. Seems they've got a general lockup. All alpha-b +ased computers seems to be dead, and www2 is. Or a Tetris at all for Zshell? zbad: The custom just does strings(we think..) zbadba: many thx.. hope 2player game will follow... hmm.... > Ne: Not today. But we're roking on it. There is no tetris for Zshell 4.0 yet. *** Signoff: JACOB (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) > It needs conversion, and we need to get in touch with the original au +thor. We can do the conversion, but we need his cooperation. NE: a faster tetris? how many lines/points you get? Well the Tetris for the normal 85 is slow as hell. I'm going to have to go now, (I've been her over an hour now - +it costs..) ne you mean the tetris for zshell 3.1 from david? Oh, well there is a tetris for zshell? Or else re-write it totally, eh Magnus? :) Where do I get it? *** JACOB <~bamse@ppp-11.kajen.malmo.se> has joined channel #ti-calc > zbadb: Seems stupid. It's already there. And we can convert it. It's +a matter of (C). See you all. any questions just email me at 100635.152@compuser +ve.com (catchey eh?) Cool. > Rob: Bi. Bye!! > BTW, Rob, How did you get such a personal address? Thats Cserve for you.... *** RobT has left channel #ti-calc (#ti-calc) H JACOB #ti-calc 6 bamse! ~bamse@ppp-11.kajen.malmo.se H Ne #ti-calc 6 Eric Rosenberg ~edr@edr.vivid.net H smack #ti-calc 6 gone fission ~smack@naidp6.nai.net H zbadba #ti-calc 6 I love my Atari ~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu H NumberSix #ti-calc 5 NumberSix xuubx@holly-fddi.csv.warwick.ac.uk H Wbunaarf #ti-calc 0 Ask me! jni@academy.bastad.se H Philipp #ti-calc 6 Hans Rudolf Knobel ~yet@dd04-010.compuserve.com H Olof #ti-calc 0 Olof Asbrink ~oas_92@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se H phantom@ #ti-calc 7 irc.law.emory.edu ~will@205.217.100.39 H MangeH@ #ti-calc 0 Magnus Hagander ~mha@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se by rob For a while I thought about making a GIF viewer for the 85, b +ut then I though - Pointless! :) well I have to reboot to get my link to work, seeya > Ne: oki. bi. *** Ne has left channel #ti-calc (#ti-calc) H JACOB #ti-calc 6 bamse! ~bamse@ppp-11.kajen.malmo.se H smack #ti-calc 6 gone fission ~smack@naidp6.nai.net H zbadba #ti-calc 6 I love my Atari ~ias3110@gold.acns.fsu.edu H NumberSix #ti-calc 5 NumberSix xuubx@holly-fddi.csv.warwick.ac.uk H Wbunaarf #ti-calc 0 Ask me! jni@academy.bastad.se H Philipp #ti-calc 6 Hans Rudolf Knobel ~yet@dd04-010.compuserve.com H Olof #ti-calc 0 Olof Asbrink ~oas_92@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se H phantom@ #ti-calc 7 irc.law.emory.edu ~will@205.217.100.39 H MangeH@ #ti-calc 0 Magnus Hagander ~mha@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se p How about a Text-Editor for the Ti-85? > Try organiser. It does some of it... Use the program thing for that... I usually do... zbaba... what about a gif to ti85.pic conversion proggy? should i attempt graph-link transfers whlie i'm online? dunno... Mange, wasn't that a game? Imho some sort of password-protection could be quite handy. + It's possible with those interupts, isn't it? Try it see what happens... > Try it. Unless you have modem and graphlink on the same port. Philipp, I have one. smack: when you use an ibm os .. yes.. of courze.. http://dnclab.Berkeley.EDU/~smack/ti > Nope. Organiser is a time-manager style program. TexaNoid is the game +- > We're looking into interrupts. Maybe in the next version of ZShell (y +es, it's already planned...) yes.. of course you need 2 ports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's plenty of conversion proggies already. they're not on the same port :) we'll see what happens. > However, we're not going to say a date. We like to keep it unlike Mic +roSoft. We release ahead of schedule! smack: hope you will see :) _ACTION likes when people develope their programs *bows*_ > So why don't you develop a few of your own? :) I thought about creating a new, gif-compressed format for the + 85 that would have greyscale info within the file. > zbad: That's amitious. However, you probably would use up too much RA +M with the decoder, so it would have no effect.. My guess..... But it would only be readable in zshell. Again, pointless. > zbad: That too. I don't think so, since a single 8-scale uncompressed grey im +age takes up 7k. mangeh: Apart from the fact that I don't know a thing about + assembler? ;) I think I'll try to get better in C first. > Do that. even if the decode is 2k, if each image is reduced in size to + 2k or something, it'd be cool. > Sure. Try it out. I'm afraid I don't think you could reduce the size +that much, sorry. but not really worth it. I'd rather work on Combat, anyways. :) > Yes, do that! Get it out! > Hey guys.. Be ready. I shall have to leave soon. However, write on th +e fanpage! magnus: you use 70% of the time in texanoid for nothing? Me too. *** Signoff: Wbunaarf (Chemistry...) > Yep, I do. Magnus: so what about a faster movement of the cursor? > Phil: I've tried it. It gets hard to see... MangeH: No! Not of the ball... of the cursor, line...... ( o +hhh my english....) %-) > Yeah. I know. The ball gets hard to see when I do that. Perhaps I wil +l look further into it sometime. > Ok. Gotta Go. See you guys l8er. Stay on the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +!! *** Error: Closing Link: MangeH[~mha@enterprise.rbk.sollentuna.se] () *** IRC session log ended at Tue Nov 21 21:05:53 1995.