where's the option for "doesn't apply to my calculator, i.e. a TI-86"? anyway, no-stub all the way

I don't think this for the 83/82/73/85/86 series. If it was, I prefer a shell, not running from the omescreen.

For an 83+, you don't really have much of a choice in terms of playing ASM games. MirageOS was my favorite. For the 89, nostub is best...cause my calculator tends to like crashing quite often. For those not wanting to pop the batteries out, push 2nd left right and on at the same time. it has the same effect. btw, how DO you remove the HW2 Patch?

I don't have a HW2, but I think the only way may be to reset the RAM...make sure everything you want is archived and then hit 2nd left right on... You a worms fan?

the only way i know to remove HW2Patch would be to "upgrade" your AMS to the same one you already have.

It works by modifying the Flash ROM (to the best of my knowlege... because before they updated it you had to patch AMS 2.05 on the computer then send it to the calc)

Yay! nth comment.

With a calc with an arc., it is best to have a shell, as the prgram will unarchive automatically, or even be copied straight to ram (dameges ROM or prevents saving of high scores I know, but still...). TI-OS needs a lot of serious improvments, or at least for the 83+.

I completely agree. For the TI-89 and 92+, "Nostub" all the way. But a shell is really need for the rest (excepting maybe the 86).

Especially the dusty 80's & 81's!

86 programs are all [mostly] 'nostub' yea!

I have an 89 (HW2, AMS 2.05). Nostub is the bomb. I've had one nostub program crash, and every Doors program I've ever run has crashed at least once. They have the patch and all that, but there are still many problems with the shells. And if the program crashes, you have to reinstall everything. From what I've done with Doors, you can't archive Doors programs, because any time a highscore is put in, it crashes, or it crashes right at the start. There also seem to be better Nostub programs than Doors. Doors just can't compete...

what's wrong w/ your calc? It works perfectly on mine...

dont use doors with ams 2.05, use universal os. thats what i use, it runs doors os games flawlessly and i love it.

Check out the new program at Calc.org! (The HSR & Kernel thing). They are must haves!

Which one are you refering to? Link? =)

check the link.
go to HSR and KernelOs v1.2 thing. They're great!

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Calc.org is back up! (still some minor problems though)
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i.m.h.o. (the onions related acronym) i think that nostub rules because TIGCC is intended for c programmers, not c lamers... so if your programs dont leak and you dont make blasfemies on your code, then your proggie must run just fine...

i understand that an OS based program takes much less space than a nostub one, but hey!... DOORS has chrashed my calc so many times and im tired of cold reseting my ti89/HW2

anyway, thats just my humble opinion, lemme alone

As a programmer I prefer nostub because there is no functions in any library that i have ever found really useful. Stability is not an issue because of universal OS.

But I can appreciate the old model as a continuation of fargo.


-Samuel

I currently have a Ti-89 HW2 calc with AMS 2.05. After trying different OSs, including Doors, I decided to settle for Universal OS and keep the necessary libraries from doors in the archive. I don't have the doors explorer (use Var-link) and all games work fine. Doors explorer will cause a nasty crash now and then and I'm sick and tired of hard resetting my calc. i haven't tried Nostub though, but my combination works fine for me at the moment and doesn't take up much space. :)

Shells help organize things, and programs are smaller because of libraries

Doors programs are smaller because of the libraries, that's true. But people seem to forget that the libraries take up space too...