You know... These rumors about ASM being slower on AMS 2.0 make me wonder if it checks the program to see if it was a flashapp sold by ti (or a ti-signed app) and deliberately slows down the calc on non-signed apps?

This would make signed apps (apps that ti was paid to sign) run faster, obviously.

This is very suspicious...

sorry...some more basic questions. does anyone know when the ams 2.00 flash upgrade for the ti89 will be released? on the ti site, it says that it will be released in fall 1999, but what does that mean? isnt it fall already? are they just trying to make it vague so that they can procrastinate the releasing of ams 2.00? i need answers! :)

TI calculators are for math. BASIC was put on the TI alculators for math programs. Go figure. For this intended purpose, BASIC is quick, effecient, and powerful enough. I will change my mind when someone writes a program in ASM that will do, say, implicit differentiation. And do it faster than any existing BASIC program.

for math, asm gives little to no advantage. asm is really good for games. asm games blow basic ones out of the water! dont think so? try to write Mario 86 with grayscale in basic!

lol

I learned how to program BASIC on the 83 a while ago, but I took up ASM because it can do so much more. I now program ASM on the 86 and love it. But, BASIC does have its uses. I just completed a math project about functions. I did the entire menu and text system in ASM but ran into problems for graphing.

The solution: I created a BASIC program that read in a variable and graphed the right equation

This is just to show that while ASM is great, BASIC still is useful.

-Sean

sorry, but i have just one more question, and its about vti. i got vti 2.4 beta 4 and i tried using the built in rom dumper and it wouldnt work with my ti 83. it kept saying "could not send file" after spending about 3 min trying to do something. i also tried this my ti 89 and the same thing happened. then i got the rom dump program from this site and the file included with the program that i was supposed to send to the calculator wouldnt run on the calculator and said "syntax error" and jumped to "end" when i selected goto. why wont rom dumping work for me? i have the ti black graph link for windows. thanks.

I think that the z80 basic sucks...
it is far too slow and it takes about an year to
start any bigger basic program. And that isn't even all
basic programs leave annoying crap integers on my calc.
I HATE BASIC. I haven't even tried z80 asm , but i say that it is about 1G times better than Basic. I have programmed my pc with basic, but it took about one second to even fill screen with the plot - command.
I tried Gnu's djgpp c- programming language , and i loved it. It would be cool to have c to z80 processor too... Hey did anyone notice? there was a suggestion to
some guy who can do that...


Thanks in advance...

Gee, I seem to have started a bunch of text based pissing contests.
Allow me to summarize all of my various postings:
asm on any calc is better than basic on the same calc
basic on the 89,92 is almost as good as asm on the z80s
the only problem is that the 89,92 are several times as powerful as the z80 calcs just to do that well
even if 89,92 basic can match z80 asm, 89,92 asm blows the ASS of its basic couterpart
Well, I guess this will start another shit flinging match down here at the bottom of the message board, but too bad!

I picked Z80.
Also, I came up with a good idea a few days ago. I think I can write a program in C that can interpret a *.83p in basic and translate it into an asm file. This could be achieved through the miracle of parsing. Initially most things would be left out, but nevertheless the program could generate a legitimate asm file. I also think that a small parser could be made on calc to translate TI-BASIC into asm. It would however be impossible to generate a full instruction set because of size limitations. Anyways, I think this would be awesome and of great benefit to the Ti community, but It will unfortunately be on the back burner to Zelda 83, which I am helping Sam Heald with.

Go Z80 go z80, go go.. go z80 go z80 go go, asm!
This would be a good chear at our school.
same with.
Give me a z, Z!

zilog(z80 asm) go. We've almost passed you basic lovers. Well I program basic, Learning and programing ASM and I like it better. Nobody who hates z80 asm or wants to say Basic is better better start a thread from here. All Z80 ASM lovers post the words "HERE" repling to my post.

z80 assembly language on ti 82!

I'd choose C++ if it were available.

I dont understand wat Z80 and 68k is.