My school has almost 4000 students yet none of the classes require or suggest the use of Ti's. I have a Ti-89. None of my techers have any clue what it can do. Need I say more??

Steve the Ti/Band geek

It depends what you mean by "cheat". I do not even think my instructor knows that you can solve simple equations for x, like "2^x=86," on the ti-89, but I have used the TI-89 to solve different equations for different variables on a test a few times. He told us we can use a graphing calculator, so I guess I was not cheating.

realistically, it doesn't matter too much if you cheat; if its something that doesn't matter, who cares? if its something that does, you only hurt yourself in the end, so again who cares; ie AP tests. cheating in AP calc and physics and chem is fine and all but eventually you WILL have to take the AP test. even if you have all your wonderful formulas programmed in your calculator, you still must know what you're doing because those tests go *quick*. having to pull up calc info every 5 sec is a sure way to fail... or even worse, get a 3! :)

I didn't vote, because none of those choices worked for me. My answer would be something like, "No, I don't need to cheat." 'Cuz I'm such a smartass.

No, Cheating is wrong #146.

I haven't ever used my calc to cheat, but it has saved me many times, but my teacher allows me to use it. I doubt that they know the full potential of a fully loaded TI-86. They can't even program their TI-82's! I asked my teacher one day if she knew how to program them, 'cuz I specialize in TI-86 BASIC, and I had a couple of questions.

~jf~

the way i see it is if you know how to create programs to cheat on the tests more power to you. in fact most of my teachers say the same thing if it is created by you and only they dont' care but they dont' like the linking of the programs to each other.

I am not tempted to cheat in tests at all because if I do I feel guilty and will get the risk of being disqualifed.

Anyway for General Studies, which I don't have to take anymore (I hope) are multiple choice questions. I only like the maths section, especially the graphs! For these questions such as "Which of these graphs represent the equation of y=x^5?" all you have to do is to dab the ON button on your TI and go to the Y(x)= screen. Now type the equation in and graph it! Now just tick the correct answer by comparing the graphs on the paper and the TI to see which one matches the most. In theory this is "cheating" but it is actually allowed! The exam rules states that you are allowed to use a calculator.

Those are very dumb teachers. If they say you can use a graphing calculator on a test and they give a test on graphing, the students, it can be argued, have a right to use the calculators to "check the work."

As my Pre-Calc teacher said, "You can use your cheat boxes(TIs) on all tests and quizzes. I figure that you would just use papers to cheat otherwise, so you might as well save yourself the trouble."

Also, my Physics Honors teacher also said, "If I say you cannot put a formula in your calculator, you would just write it on your formula sheet. Save yourself the paper."

Knight/Rocket's 10c.

I think that using a TI on a math test is fine, and doesn't qualify as cheating. I do it all the time. However, we have a nice method of controlling TI use. We must take a test of problems by hand on the subject we're studying to prove that we know how to do it, and then we can use the TI. That works well and it's fair. It's just an added incentive to learn the subject matter, and I think it works.

-Z86MON-

can anyone give me some help with my ti 89??
i want to find out how can i enter those function-

find lim f(x)
x->0-
f(x)={3x^2, >0
(x+1)^1/2, <=0
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can the calc find

f(x)=27x^2 + 16/x [.25,1.25]
-relative extrema
-absolute extreama
-critical point
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this is not for cheating.....these are fairly easy but time consuming process....cause our test are timed.... please help..... email me please
twisted_balistics@hotmail.com

To find a limit on an 89, use lim(equation, variable sought, (approach direction if needed), and point to approach.
For your equation, the equation is: lim(3x^2,x,0
or lim((x+1)^1/2),x,0.
All of this is in the manual, and it is often helpful to do as I did and create a text file with the keystrokes for finding limits, derivatives, etc.

Knight/Rocket's 12c.

Well, my chem teacher always said that if you have a program, use it..just as it gives u the right anwsers, it's not cheating :)

He's nice

Yeah, I've cheated with my TI-89. TI-89s got banned. My solution? I took the case off of an 83+ and put the circuitry of the TI89 and put it in the TI - 83s case ;- ) Now its a TI-83 that can solve equations, factor, etc!

This doesn't always work in my math class. My math teacher has certain parts of the test that you must do without a graphing calculator and you must turn that part in before you can pick up your calculator.

I feel that educators are not keeping up with technology.

The fact of the matter is that most instructors had nothing more than a sheet of paper when they studied the subject, and their students should face the same difficulties and challenges.

Times have changed the focus needs to be on getting the answer quickly, efficiently and correctly. They need prepare us for the world we face, that world dows not care how we derived at a solution, but whether we have a solution or not.

My employer does not look upon me as a "cheater" when I use my TI-89 at work, neither should my scholastic institution.

Amen! Preach it!