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Machine Language is the BEST!!!
tim curnew  Account Info

Having read all of u guyz's replies to this survey, i gotta tells ya...
ASM:(okay)i wouldnt pick this to program larger games in, because of the common coding problems due to compilation.
BASIC:(limited)this language would be good to use for beginners learning TI programming (i did)
FLASH!!!:a PAIN IN THE ASS to code in, because you have to enter EVERYTHING by hand (like machine language), but Flash lets you use 4 times as much space for programs, they run faster, and can have COMPLETE control over the calc!!!

never heard of perl, or any of the other exotic languages

MachineCode:Is the best, because ou can use the functions of FLASH!!!, ASM, and BASIC. you can use ALL of the memory, and machine code is COMPLETELY customizable... Its FLASH!!! times 10!

Reply to this comment    30 September 2000, 21:00 GMT


Re: Machine Language is the BEST!!!
blckmax012987  Account Info

Oh yeah, and.....

no offense with anyone with them, but I HATE MACS!!!
and C/C++ ARE AWESOME TOO!!!

I ma a 13 year old Student in a common middle school in Myrtle Beach , South Carolina, (USA)...
i have been programming for 5 years, and am one of the most proficient program debuggers/fixers that TI-CALC.org has, and i gotta say, its fun as hell, so u poor peoples who DON'T program, ... START!!!!!

Reply to this comment    30 September 2000, 21:11 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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Andy, Andy, Andy.

TI-BASIC is not a programming language. It is a form of a scripting language.

Assembly is a programming language. TI-BASIC operates off the assembly-based operating system on an assembly processor. Hence, it's a scripting language, just like HTML is the scripting language to be rendered by the C code that comprises Internet Explorer or Netscape.

--BlueCalx

Reply to this comment    30 September 2000, 21:44 GMT

Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Nicholas Bendler  Account Info
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I think Andy got a soft sport for TI-Basic.

<aselle> life is 339 lines of TI-BASIC code

Need I say more? ;)

Reply to this comment    30 September 2000, 23:23 GMT

Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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So if someone creates a compiler for TI-BASIC, would that make it a true programming language?

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 01:45 GMT

interpreted vs scripted?
ticalc_staff_are_slackers

i think ti-basic is too complicated to be considered merely a scripting language. you've got complex ui, variable manipulation (incl math), and some program structure. otoh, it's got very limited subroutines.

i don't know tho, perl is considered a scripting language, but it's got more than this. so what's the difference between an interpreted language and a scripting language? are they the same thing now?

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 03:40 GMT


Re: interpreted vs scripted?
David Phillips  Account Info
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It's an issue of semantics, but generally speaking, a programming language is something that is compiled into machine code, and a scripting language is something that is interpreted. Though, that is really a bad way to differentiate them, because you are still programming with a scripting language. And what about something like PHP3 or TI-BASIC, where it is interpreted on the fly, and something like PHP4 and Java, where it is compiled into byte-code, and interpreted then?

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 07:53 GMT

Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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Generally, a scripting language is semantically equivalent to an interpreted programming language. Some syntaxes are more similar to common compiled languages' syntaxes than others, but I'd certainly consider TI-BASIC a programming language.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 21:56 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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What difference does it make as far as this survey is concerned?

Reply to this comment    2 October 2000, 04:03 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Kenneth Johnson  Account Info

what about html...? (BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!)

<!-- whyisntit420 -->

Reply to this comment    30 September 2000, 21:57 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
ticalc_staff_are_slackers

html is a *markup* language, not a *programming* language.

you don't perform any actions in html.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 03:44 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
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Delphi all the way!

I like designing programs in an object-oriented way; they usually turn out to be less buggy if you really use the things provided in OOP. Of all object-oriented languages, Delphi is simply the best.

Reply to this comment    30 September 2000, 22:55 GMT

Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
David Phillips  Account Info
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Sorry, I prefer Borland C++Builder over Borland Delphi. C++ is much less annoying to code in than Object Pascal :) Though, they are both excellent products, perhaps the best GUI program creators ever. It would be cool if Borland would just merge the IDE's into one product.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 07:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Sebastian Reichelt  Account Info
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C++ Builder is probably OK as well, but I prefer the Pascal syntax because it's a lot clearer to me. It might be a little more tedious to program in, but the result is a lot more readable. While I like the '{'...'}' in C/C++, the use of more keywords and the clarity of operators in Pascal make Delphi my favorite.

Reply to this comment    2 October 2000, 01:29 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Matt Hockenheimer  Account Info

I've read every message in the forum to this point waiting for someone to say that :) (and that's quite a few messages - I think I'm on page 5 of messages now).

Delphi is a very good language. It uses the easy-to-learn Pascal, has one of the best interfaces imaginable, includes componants to work with the internet... And is coming out with a linux version called Kylix!!!

Delphi has always been my favorite language. It was the first one I learned, and is still the one I program most often in (which is why I voted Other). After that, I use TIB with support from FLIB. FLIB is great - It mixes some of the gratness of assembly with the gratness of TIB. I'm actually writing a TIB game that uses full-screen graphgics (Including over the toolbars) using it right now.

Reply to this comment    3 October 2000, 22:24 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
jrschiller Account Info

I use qbasic for the simple reason, its on my machine. I do know some c but I don't have a complier. One thing that I have wanted to do for the last couple of years is java but I haven't got around to it.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 00:20 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
jrschiller Account Info

I use qbasic for the simple reason, its on my machine. I do know some c but I don't have a complier. One thing that I have wanted to do for the last couple of years is java but I haven't got around to it.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 00:20 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Pleonazm Account Info

I like C++ a lot. I did start out with TI-BASIC though and I'm gettin quite good. But you can do so much more with C++. I've been taking a class on it this year. I hardly know anything, but already it's better than programming on a TI calculator!!

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 00:34 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
acr34  Account Info
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What about the ever-popular Visual Basic? WinHelp? JavaScript?

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 01:45 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
calcfreak901  Account Info
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> Visual Basic
Teaches sloppy programming techniques. Falls under "Other".

> WinHelp
What the fork?

> JavaScript
Just because its Micro$loth's version of Java, it doesn't qualify as a different language.

Reply to this comment    2 October 2000, 04:09 GMT

Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Josh Storz  Account Info

i have experience in almost all of these and i can tell you that perl is the most versatile and useful language there is (besides php, of course =P). assembly is great fun but if you want return go with perl.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 03:25 GMT

Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
ticalc_staff_are_slackers

true, but parts of perl are confusing as hell. i'd have to say it's easier to grasp most of c++ than most of perl. (all is just as difficult)

i remember i once wrote a perl script that took a pdf file, decompressed all the text in it (lzw, written in perl) and spat it out as plain text. i don't think any other language would have made that as easy.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 03:50 GMT


Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
David Phillips  Account Info
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Perl is a text processing language, so sure, if you are working with text, Perl is going to make it much easier than say C++. But it's a scripting language, and you can't write everything in Perl. You still need a backend language such as C in order to have nice scripting languages like Perl.

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 07:57 GMT


Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
JrJinfinity  Account Info
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David Phillips knows more about programming then God himself ;)

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 10:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite way to program?
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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David Phillips. God. What is the difference? They're synonymous, as far as I'm concerned.

Of course, he'd probably write (David_Phillips==God).

Reply to this comment    1 October 2000, 22:00 GMT

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