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Re: Is this the first ticalc.org survey you have ever voted in?
Snave2000  Account Info

Unbelievable! I've never seen such a...a...(!)....survey!

How about instead:
"Do you plan to take over the world with your graphing calculator?"
Possible selections:
1) Yes, the world is already mine to command! <evil laugh>
2) Yes, I prepare for this event daily
3) Yes, but it seems hard and I'm too lazy
4) No, who would want to take over the world?
5) No, I've got too much other stuff to do
6) No; sounds interesting, but not with a calculator.
5) Taking over the world? Can you eat it?

At the very least, it would be entertaining to see the responses. Sometimes a break from reality is needed.

Reply to this comment    12 September 2005, 15:12 GMT

Re: Re: Is this the first ticalc.org survey you have ever voted in?
Snave2000  Account Info

That last 5 should be a 7. I sincerely apologize...

Reply to this comment    12 September 2005, 15:13 GMT


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george linkington  Account Info
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if the moon is made of cheese what is the earth made of?

Reply to this comment    12 September 2005, 21:35 GMT

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Num Account Info

How is this comment on topic?

"We often remove comments that stray from these guidelines. We do this not to "censor" your feedback, but to keep replies on-topic."

-Ticalc.org guidelines for replying to comments

Reply to this comment    12 September 2005, 23:15 GMT

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jesse frey  Account Info

the survay idea did mention eating the earth and cheese is somthing that people eat.

Reply to this comment    13 September 2005, 04:08 GMT


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Snave2000  Account Info

It is not even close to on topic. It's about as random as you can get. (CENSOR IT!!!!!)

Reply to this comment    13 September 2005, 14:50 GMT


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Alex Clink  Account Info
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i hear it's amazing when the purple stuffed worm from flapped jawed space WITH THE TUNING FORK does a raw blink on hari cari rock. I NEED SCISSORS! 61!

Reply to this comment    14 September 2005, 02:02 GMT


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Blood Account Info

It's made of dirt, duh! :)

Reply to this comment    12 September 2005, 23:47 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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Or is it just dirty cheese...

Reply to this comment    13 September 2005, 04:01 GMT


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Snave2000  Account Info

Dirty cheese??!!!? What were you thinking? While I'm sure that possibly somewhere in the annals of quantum mechanics there is a certain provision for the possibility of the earth being made of dirty cheese, the probablility of this actually being the case would need to be expressed with imaginary numbers. Go figure...

Reply to this comment    13 September 2005, 14:53 GMT


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Zeroko  Account Info
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Umm...if I remember correctly, probability amplitudes in quantum physics *are normally* represented by complex numbers...

Reply to this comment    13 September 2005, 15:28 GMT


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nicklaszlo Account Info
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No. You're close, though. I'm taking Quantum Physics right now, and we covered this topic last week.

According to the schrodinger wave equation, everything has a wave function psi associated with it. This function is in the complex plane. The probability density of a particle - the chance that it exists within a certain volume, is psi^2. All these probabilities are real and have an integral over their domain of 1, just like macroscopic probabilites.

Please correct my details, keeping in mind we've only worked on the 2d model.

Reply to this comment    13 September 2005, 20:31 GMT


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nicklaszlo Account Info
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Excuse me, the probability density function is:

|Psi(r,t)|^2dV

Or, psi squared times volume. r and t are position and time. The absolute value symbols make psi real.

|Psi(r,t)|^2 alone is the intensity of the wave function.

Reply to this comment    13 September 2005, 20:38 GMT


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Alex Clink  Account Info
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wow, that random statement got a lot of responses...

Reply to this comment    14 September 2005, 02:04 GMT

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Snave2000  Account Info

Well, for all our logical thinking, we programmers do seem to gravitate to the random, the chaotic, the impossible.

Reply to this comment    14 September 2005, 15:54 GMT


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jesse frey  Account Info

there is nothing truly random ;) only psudo random

Reply to this comment    15 September 2005, 05:04 GMT

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JcN  Account Info
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You could seed your random number generator with white noise data every so often...

Reply to this comment    15 September 2005, 20:55 GMT


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Zeroko  Account Info
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There is no guarantee that even quantum fluctuations are random, only that we cannot find a pattern. In fact, for those of us who believe in God, that makes a good explanation for how He could influence the universe without violating the laws of physics. For those who believe the universe is a simulation, QP supports that view also (like how in games you only render what the user(s) can see), in which case it would only be truly random if the simulator had a source of true randomness available.

Reply to this comment    16 September 2005, 16:01 GMT


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JcN  Account Info
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Arbitrary senarios cannot be predicted EXACTLY without enough prior data. For all practical purposes, using white noise values as a seed would work better than using the computer's random number generator. By "white noise values," I mean using a radio antenna or microwave detector to "listen" to a predetermined set cosmic rays and/or background radiation (i.e. cosmic rays and/or background radiation with frequencies within a predefined range) , and use the frequencies as seeds. To add even more "randomness," you could change the frequency bounds every so often.

Of course, it's actually much easier to seed the random number generator with, say, the x-coordinate of the mouse every so often (assuming the program uses the mouse), or to seed the random number generator with a value chosen at random from video memory or RAM.

Reply to this comment    16 September 2005, 20:12 GMT


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Jake Griffin  Account Info
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Exactly...The generation of random numbers is too important to leave to chance.

Reply to this comment    17 September 2005, 22:31 GMT


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burntfuse  Account Info
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Wow, how ironic... :-D

Reply to this comment    19 September 2005, 20:19 GMT


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Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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Somewhat amazing that my comment about dirty cheese resulted in a conversation about quantum physics...

Reply to this comment    15 September 2005, 19:44 GMT


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Kaaiman  Account Info

Maybe someone can make a survey about that!

Reply to this comment    18 September 2005, 17:10 GMT


Re: Re: Is this the first ticalc.org survey you have ever voted in?
Kaaiman  Account Info

2) Yes, I prepare for this event daily

A little correction:

2) Yes, me and my calc prepare for this event daily

Reply to this comment    18 September 2005, 17:07 GMT


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Kaaiman  Account Info

Mwuahahahahahahahahahahahahhh!!! *echo sound effect*

Reply to this comment    18 September 2005, 17:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Is this the first ticalc.org survey you have ever voted in?
Snave2000  Account Info

That's the spirit!

Reply to this comment    19 September 2005, 15:47 GMT


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Blood Account Info

Hey, this one string of posts is taking up one entire page! Is that a first? We could have a record here!

Reply to this comment    20 September 2005, 01:56 GMT

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