From: Grant Stockly <gussie@alaska.net> >Its is a huge butt uglu hoax. Thats all there is to it. As I suspected :) Has anyone ever talked to the author of those plans about it? >I thought that was common knowlege? TIcalc needs to take that down... The versions I found were not at TIcalc, although they still need to be taken down where ever they exist. DK