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Re: Is ticalc.org down?



Actually, we are not a "big-time" company at all. A very small company, as a matter of fact. That's why I am so busy... you wouldn't believe how much you gotta do when you are the president, treasurer and head programmer!! I don't have little vicepresidents running around doing everything for me. Never in my posts did I ever say anything about big-time, just busy!

I am trying to setup lots of different topic areas. We go around the net and look for promising areas. And as a matter of fact, I really love my 3-year old TI-85. In my spare time, I still play around with it! So, I thought a calculator site would be interesting. Already, we have a VB page (http://www.bowmansoft.com/vbwm/ ), a VC++ page (http://www.bowmansoft.com/vcwm/ ), and are planning a gardening page (pretty weird, huh?), and some other stuff. Basically, we are finding promising hit bringing niches.

And, I like to think we have very good prices. Actually, we do have quite a few more email addresses, but what does that matter... That's pretty silly. Anyhow, I hope you usually act more mature than that.

BowmanSoft Software
http://www.bowmansoft.com/
Web Hosting and Design Services

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From: Emilo J Panda <x-zshell@JUNO.COM>
To: CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM
Date: Thursday, June 19, 1997 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Is ticalc.org down?

I guess that's why on your web hosting page you claim  " 5 pop accounts
and unlimited aliasing"
Let's see:

1. Richard
2. Megan
3. Lamer

That's only three.  hehehe.  Plenty of room for your company to grow
lamer.

Oops - I was just about to send this when I realized, why is the
president of a "big-time" software company as yourself doing subscribed
to a Texas Instruments Mailing List.
Also - why is the president of a "big-time" software company as yourself
doing trying to set up a calculator site at all.
You suck.

On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:38:55 -0400 Richard Bowman
<richard@BOWMANSOFT.COM> writes:
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>I am the president and marketing manager of a company. Do you really =
>think I have time to be making web pages? That's pretty silly. I have
>=
>enough to do trying to keep up with all of our developers and trying
>to =
>make sure we get some hits, and consulting on different software =
>packages.
>If you choose to not believe me, that's your business. But, I have no
>=
>reason to lie to you. I don't know you and you don't know me. I have =
>apologized about what the author did, and I can't do anything more. I
>=
>hope the great people whose messages here I have read don't hold =
>grudges.
>If the people here can't forgive me, I am truly sorry. I fired a =
>valuable asset to my company because he did something that you and I =
>both don't believe in. And I am now taking out personal time to set
>what =
>he did wrong and make a truly good and original web page.
>And as to the developer being unnamed... what does that mean? I don't
>=
>think he deserves to be tormented by people who have nothing better to
>=
>do. I set up an account if you something to say to him. It is his wish
>=
>to remain anonymous, and I respect that. I can't imagine if you were
>in =
>his position you would want to be known.
>Oh, and as to me trying to be "disjointed from him", I take full =
>responsibility for his actions. That is why he longer has a job, and
>why =
>I have been on here taking in all your ridicule. I am not
>"disjointing" =
>myself from him. But I do want everyone to know I don't believe what
>he =
>did was right.
>Thank you for your time.
>BowmanSoft Software
>http://www.bowmansoft.com/
>Web Hosting and Design Services
>
> ----
>From: jeffrey steven bunds <bunds@students.uiuc.edu>
>To: Richard Bowman <richard@BOWMANSOFT.COM>
>Cc: CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM
>Date: Thursday, June 19, 1997 4:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Is ticalc.org down?
>
>
>I love how this Bowman guy is trying to establish a disjointed space =
>from
>the so-called "developer" (who is still conveniently un-named).  I'm
>really getting a kick about all the heated debate going on lately - =
>makes
>for some great entertainment.
>
>But seriously, I feel very strongly about copyright infringement
>issues. =
>
>I think that it's entirely fair for the parties involved to seek =
>whatever
>legal retribution and resolution they desire.
>
>On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Richard Bowman wrote:
>
>> OK, OK... Sorry... as a matter of fact, I only visited the site
>once. =
>=3D
>> Please don't be angry with me. I never looked in detail at the site.
>I =
>=3D
>> just told y'all what the developer gave me as markteting material. I
>=
>am =3D
>> again very sorry. The next TIonline will be a good site that is =3D
>> completely written by me and another employee, Megan. (Reach her at
>=
>=3D
>> megan@bowmansoft.com).
>> We are starting the site from scratch, and will probally have a
>alpha =
>=3D
>> version up for everyone to see again by next week. However, I
>promise =
>no =3D
>> material will be copied from any other site. Other sites will be
>used =
>as =3D
>> references, and if any info is used, it will be appropriate quoted
>and =
>=3D
>> sourced.
>> Sorry again for the trouble. Reach the guy who made the earlier site
>=
>at =3D
>> lamer@bowmansoft.com. Please don't place too much objectionable =
>language =3D
>> in it. Just tell him what you think he did wrong when he did the
>site
>> BowmanSoft Software
>> http://www.bowmansoft.com/
>> Web Hosting and Design Services
>>
>>  ----
>> From: Tony Lieuallen <arantius@erols.com>
>> To: CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM
>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 1997 3:25 PM
>> Subject:  Re: Is ticalc.org down?
>>
>> Richard Bowman wrote:
>> >
>> > Eggplant Farms wrote:
>> >
>> > > Is ticalc.org down?
>> >
>> > Well, don't worry about ticalc.org. Instead, visit
>> > http://tionline.home.ml.org/ which provides more information and a
>> > simpler interface.
>> >
>> > The site just opened on 6/18/97, and soon the site will contain
>> > competing file archives, along with many other features that meet
>=
>and
>>   ^^^^^^^^^
>> It's fine with me if you do this project, BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T
>TRY
>> TO COMPETE!!!!
>>
>> > exceed ticalc.org.
>> --
>>             ''~``
>>            ( o o )
>>   ____.oooO__(_)__Oooo.__________
>> /  Tony Lieuallen               \
>> [ arantius@erols.com              ]
>> [    .oooO http://gifs.home.ml.org]
>> [    (   )   Oooo.                ]
>> \____\ (____(   )_______________/
>>        \_)    ) /
>>              (_/
>>
>>
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><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>I am the president and =
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>That's=20
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>developers=20
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>=
>software=20
>packages.</FONT></FONT>
>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>If you choose to not =
>believe me, that's=20
>your business. But, I have no reason to lie to you. I don't know you
>and =
>you=20
>don't know me. I have apologized about what the author did, and I
>can't =
>do=20
>anything more. I hope the great people whose messages here I have read
>=
>don't=20
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>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>If the people here can't
>=
>forgive me, I=20
>am truly sorry. I fired a valuable asset to my company because he did
>=
>something=20
>that you and I both don't believe in. And I am now taking out personal
>=
>time to=20
>set what he did wrong and make a truly good and original web =
>page.</FONT></FONT>
>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>And as to the developer
>=
>being unnamed...=20
>what does that mean? I don't think he deserves to be tormented by
>people =
>who=20
>have nothing better to do. I set up an account if you something to say
>=
>to him.=20
>It is his wish to remain anonymous, and I respect that. I can't
>imagine =
>if you=20
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>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>Oh, and as to me trying
>to =
>be=20
>&quot;disjointed from him&quot;, I take full responsibility for his =
>actions.=20
>That is why he longer has a job, and why I have been on here taking in
>=
>all your=20
>ridicule. I am not &quot;disjointing&quot; myself from him. But I do =
>want=20
>everyone to know I don't believe what he did was right.</FONT></FONT>
>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>Thank you for your =
>time.</FONT></FONT>
>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>BowmanSoft Software<BR>
><A =
>href=3D"http://www.bowmansoft.com/">http://www.bowmansoft.com/</A><BR>
>Web Hosting and Design Services</FONT>
>
><P></P>
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><B>From: </B>jeffrey steven bunds &lt;bunds@students.uiuc.edu&gt;<BR>
><B>To: </B>Richard Bowman &lt;<A=20
>href=3D"mailto:richard@BOWMANSOFT.COM">richard@BOWMANSOFT.COM</A>&gt;<BR>=
>
><B>Cc: </B><A=20
>href=3D"mailto:CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM">CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM</A><BR>=
>
><B>Date: </B>Thursday, June 19, 1997 4:52 PM<BR>
><B>Subject: </B>Re: Is ticalc.org down?<BR>
><BR>
><HTML><BODY><FONT size=3D2><BR>
>I love how this Bowman guy is trying to establish a disjointed space =
>from<BR>
>the so-called &quot;developer&quot; (who is still conveniently =
>un-named).&nbsp;=20
>I'm<BR>
>really getting a kick about all the heated debate going on lately - =
>makes<BR>
>for some great entertainment.<BR>
><BR>
>But seriously, I feel very strongly about copyright infringement=20
>issues.&nbsp;<BR>
>I think that it's entirely fair for the parties involved to seek =
>whatever<BR>
>legal retribution and resolution they desire.<BR>
><BR>
>On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Richard Bowman wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>&gt; OK, OK... Sorry... as a matter of fact, I only visited the site =
>once. =3D<BR>
>&gt; Please don't be angry with me. I never looked in detail at the =
>site. I=20
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; just told y'all what the developer gave me as markteting
>material. =
>I am=20
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; again very sorry. The next TIonline will be a good site that is =
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; completely written by me and another employee, Megan. (Reach her
>at =
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; <A =
>href=3D"mailto:megan@bowmansoft.com">megan@bowmansoft.com</A>).<BR>
>&gt; We are starting the site from scratch, and will probally have a =
>alpha =3D<BR>
>&gt; version up for everyone to see again by next week. However, I =
>promise no=20
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; material will be copied from any other site. Other sites will be
>=
>used as=20
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; references, and if any info is used, it will be appropriate
>quoted =
>and=20
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; sourced.<BR>
>&gt; Sorry again for the trouble. Reach the guy who made the earlier =
>site at=20
>=3D<BR>
>&gt; <A href=3D"mailto:lamer@bowmansoft.com">lamer@bowmansoft.com</A>.
>=
>Please=20
>don't place too much objectionable language =3D<BR>
>&gt; in it. Just tell him what you think he did wrong when he did the
>=
>site<BR>
>&gt; BowmanSoft Software<BR>
>&gt; <A =
>href=3D"http://www.bowmansoft.com/">http://www.bowmansoft.com/</A><BR>
>&gt; Web Hosting and Design Services<BR>
>&gt;<BR>
>&gt;&nbsp; ----<BR>
>&gt; From: Tony Lieuallen &lt;<A=20
>href=3D"mailto:arantius@erols.com">arantius@erols.com</A>&gt;<BR>
>&gt; To: <A=20
>href=3D"mailto:CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM">CALC-TI@LISTS.PPP.TI.COM</A><BR>=
>
>&gt; Date: Thursday, June 19, 1997 3:25 PM<BR>
>&gt; Subject:&nbsp; Re: Is ticalc.org down?<BR>
>&gt;<BR>
>&gt; Richard Bowman wrote:<BR>
>&gt; &gt;<BR>
>&gt; &gt; Eggplant Farms wrote:<BR>
>&gt; &gt;<BR>
>&gt; &gt; &gt; Is ticalc.org down?<BR>
>&gt; &gt;<BR>
>&gt; &gt; Well, don't worry about ticalc.org. Instead, visit<BR>
>&gt; &gt; <A=20
>href=3D"http://tionline.home.ml.org/">http://tionline.home.ml.org/</A>
>=
>which=20
>provides more information and a<BR>
>&gt; &gt; simpler interface.<BR>
>&gt; &gt;<BR>
>&gt; &gt; The site just opened on 6/18/97, and soon the site will =
>contain<BR>
>&gt; &gt; competing file archives, along with many other features that
>=
>meet=20
>and<BR>
>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ^^^^^^^^^<BR>
>&gt; It's fine with me if you do this project, BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE
>DON'T =
>TRY<BR>
>&gt; TO COMPETE!!!!<BR>
>&gt;<BR>
>&gt; &gt; exceed ticalc.org.<BR>
>&gt; --<BR>
>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
>sp;=20
>''~``<BR>
>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
>( =
>o o=20
>)<BR>
>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ____.oooO__(_)__Oooo.__________<BR>
>&gt; /&nbsp; Tony=20
>Lieuallen&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
>p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
>\<BR>
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>=
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