Re: Which TI should I buy?
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Re: Which TI should I buy?
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Benjamin D Kohler-Crowe wrote:
> While I prefer The F-button menus, I'm commenting on the thing about the
> catalog.
> 1) I'm pretty sure (though not positive) that a couple of things on the
> 85 are only in the catalog.
I think you are right.
> 2) Phillip wasn't saying he liked the catalog, he was saying he liked
> the custom menu, and so do I. I program (in all my spare time :) and I
> like having all the things I use a lot that aren't in the program menus
> in my custom menu-
That I agree with, but only on the 85 because things are such a pain to
find otherwise. Especially quotation marks, necessary in many programs
have their own key (pretty much) on the 82, but are hidden on an 85 under
the PRGM I/O menu.
> i.e. and, or, not, xor, <, >, (and the equal ones), x-root, !, ', etc.
> I'd actually prefer a bigger custom menu!
Agreed.
> 3) While neither menu system is necessarily better, the TI-85's is
> "cleaner," and lets you see the majority of the screen even if you're 3
> layers down.
>
to-may-to, to-mah-to. 8-)
-- JBD
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> On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:55:24 -0500 "Johnny \"Big Dog\" Miyares"
> <jmiyares@MDIHS.U98.K12.ME.US> writes:
> >On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Phillip D. Teeple wrote:
> >
> >> I still fail to see the advantages of the 82. The 85's menu system
> >is so
> >> much better, it has a custom menu, and is much more powerful with
> >higher
> >> resolution. Why is the TI-82 better?
> >
> >I prefer the pull down menus. They make sense to me as a
> >mathematician.
> >
> >The catalog is put in there for folks who don't know enough to find
> >what
> >they are looking for in a menu. I find just knowing logically what
> >menus
> >to look for things in much faster for me. For example,
> >when I need to do something involving math, I hit the math button.
> >when I
> >want to deal with internal variables, I hit the VARS button. When I
> >want
> >to do manipulation in the lists, I hit the STAT or LIST button. This
> >to
> >me I would do on an 85 or an 82. Why? Because I know what all of the
> >menus actually do. They make logical sense to me. The catalog is a
> >waste
> >of time for me because I already know what menus to find 90% of the
> >85's
> >commands. Also, for those of us that have to regularly switch from
> >one to
> >the other, it's nice to know that there is some consistency from one
> >to
> >the other. Certain commands are not the same from one to the other,
> >but I
> >as a math teacher need to know both. For example, "QUADREG" on the 82
> >is
> >the same as "P2REG" on the 85. Scrolling through the catalog, I would
> >never find it, but knowing that I am evaluating statistics, I look in
> >the
> >stat menu and say, "Oh, that is what it is." If I am teaching a class
> >and
> >need to do quadratic regression, and 95% of the class has TI-82's and
> >I
> >tell them simply that we are going to do Quadatic Regression and that
> >is
> >the QUADREG command on the 82, the 85 folks will then try scrolling
> >through the catalog to find it, and won't.
> >
> >On top of that, the 85's menus are difficult to see, I prefer the pull
> >downs. The list features and the statistical graphing (scatterplots
> >and
> >the like) are much more easily analyzed on the 82 than the 85 due to
> >one's
> >ability to trace on a scatterplot on the 82.
> >
> >I'm not saying that the 85 isn't better in many ways than the 82, I'm
> >just
> >trying to suggest that the 82 is not an inferior calculator. More
> >importantly, they are different calculators. The TI-80 is an inferior
> >calculator.
> >
> >-- JBD
> >
>
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