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Re: A89: RE: Radio link protocol : Use the one that's already THE standard in computers.




Thanks for the discouragement through your un-official opinion! =)

-Miles Raymond      EML: m_rayman@bigfoot.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Sweeney <psweeney@geocities.com>
To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: A89: RE: Radio link protocol : Use the one that's already THE
standard in computers.


> This is getting really stupid.  Pirate radio stations and talk of Ham
radios.
> This is a calculator list!
> Anyway, a "ham" radio is short for amatuer radio.  You must be LICENSED to
use
> these bans and radios although anyone can buy one.  There are major jail
times
> and penalties even for the shortest range "ham" units.
> Packet radio, using a tnc has been going on for ages, since the ages of XT
> computers for communicating to local BBS services without making a phone
call.
> It has fallen into disuse.  The point is, not everyone can just start
using it,
> and for any task they feel like.
> Anyway, this isn't something you want on your calculator.  Although it
works
> with a standard terminal program connected to a serial port, the device is
big.
> Picture a big external modem.  And the radio gear to use it is just as
bad,
> unless your the type to always carry a 2 way radio.
> I don't claim to understand all this stuff, but a good friend of mine hada
setup
> and I questioned him about 5 years ago to see what it was all about.
> -Patrick
> psweeney@geocities.com
>
> Javier wrote:
>
> > What are ham radios ??
> > Javier
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Rob Rupertus <rob_rupertus@yahoo.com>
> > Para: assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Fecha: Martes 21 de Septiembre de 1999 22:23 p.m.
> > Asunto: A89: Radio link protocol : Use the one that's already THE
standard
> > in computers.
> >
> > >A radio link protocol was developed long before most of the TI-8x
> > calculators existed and can be
> > >easily adapted for TIs.
> > >
> > >It is called packet radio, and is used to connect two computers (even
> > different kinds) via ham
> > >radios.  All calculators would be tuned to the same frequency.  Each
> > calculator would be assigned
> > >a different call sign or a numerical address.  When a transmission
occurs,
> > the calculator would
> > >send its call sign, and ALL for a message to all other calculators, or
the
> > intended receiver's
> > >call sign (for operation like a regular link), and the message.
> > >
> > >Since packet radio has already been proven to work and is already a
> > standard in radio data
> > >transmission, it would end the never ending discussion about how radio
> > links should transfer data,
> > >and it would allow actual work to be started.
> > >
> > >----
> > >
> > >With TIs, this could be further enhanced with the following :
> > >
> > >Free the user from having to find out a unique call sign...If it is a
> > calculator with its serial
> > >number in ROM (like the TI-89), the serial number could be used.  To
> > prevent confusion if, say, a
> > >TI-92 and a TI-89 have the same serial number, the calculator model
number
> > (i.e. 89 for TI-89)
> > >would also be included.
> > >
> > >If DOOM receives a chat message, it might become confused.  So, in any
> > message being sent out,
> > >include the application name.
> > >
> > >If there are two different games of DOOM running, they would get
confused
> > by each other.  So, in
> > >addition to the application name, include a channel number or name (one
for
> > each different DOOM
> > >game or chat conversation).
> > >
> > >There could be application and channel names, such as DOOM,OPEN, where
> > information, such as DOOM
> > >games that are accepting new players, can be broadcast.
> > >
> > >----
> > >
> > >Some nice benefits :
> > >
> > >Since it would be a standard protocol, it would enable calculators to
use
> > one set frequency
> > >without programs having to do much work to figure out whether a message
is
> > for them and whether
> > >the data deals with that program.  For instance, if you are playing a
DOOM
> > game, and your teammate
> > >shoots you because someone else was chatting and sent a message which
DOOM
> > mistook for that
> > >teammate saying they fired a bullet.
> > >
> > >Programs could be written for and work between different models of
> > calculators, as long as they
> > >send the same format messages.  A simple instance is chat, which would
be
> > easy to implement.
> > >Multiplayer tetris would be more difficult, but it would be nice to be
able
> > to play something like
> > >this against your friend if you have a TI-85 and your friend has a
TI-83.
> > Also, even nicer games,
> > >like DOOM could be written for different types of calculators.  A 3 or
4
> > player DOOM match would
> > >be great (8 would be awesome if it is possible).



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