Re: A89: THEY STILL INPLY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT


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Re: A89: THEY STILL INPLY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT




I thought some one already explained that softwarehouse is owned by TI and
the fact that they didn't make AMS 1.00 or 2.x.
I might just be dreaming things though.

Eric Greening
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Rabeler <rabelerb@pilot.msu.edu>
To: assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
Date: Friday, December 03, 1999 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: A89: THEY STILL INPLY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT


>
>TI owns them though...
>
>Bryan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Martin" <davediego@geocities.com>
>To: <assembly-89@lists.ticalc.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 12:49 AM
>Subject: Re: A89: THEY STILL INPLY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT
>
>
>>
>> well of course TI didnt make it, softwarehouse did =P
>>
>> Andrew Magness wrote:
>>
>> > bah, thats the most ABSURD thing i've ever heard in my life!!!
>> >
>> > At 11:10 PM 12/2/99 -0800, you wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Thank you for your e-mail.
>> > >
>> > >Again, this software was not developed by Texas Instruments.  There
are
>> > >some very bright computer programmers out there.  The disclosure
>statement
>> > >you copied is a standard disclosure with most TI software downloads.
>That
>> > >would be simple to copy into a download.  It is possible to write an
>> > >application or software that will only support a certain version of
the
>> > >TI-Graph Link software.
>> > >
>> > >If you have any further questions or comments please feel free to
>contact
>> > >us at your convenience. Please copy this message in your response and
>send
>> > >directly to ti-cares@ti.com for faster service on replies.
>> > >
>> > >Kind regards,
>> > >
>> > >John Onufreiczuk
>> > >
>> >
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >Educational & Productivity Solutions
>> > >Customer Support Center                E-mail: ti-cares@ti.com
>> > >Texas Instruments
>> > >PO Box 650311 M/S 3962
>> > >Dallas, TX  75265                      (972)917-8324 (Technical Help)
>> > >                                       (800) 842-2737 (General Info)
>> >
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > www.ti.com/calc
>> > >========================= ORIGINAL MESSAGE ==========================
>> > >
>> > >[ "Serial" <Serial@Earthlink.net> on 12/2/99 12:25:21 AM ]
>> > >
>> > >So if Texas Instruments did not make this file why does it show this
>before
>> > >you may install it?
>> > >And Furthur. Why does it require v0.16 Of the flash graphlink beta
>clearly
>> > >written by Ti to install.
>> > >If it was not developed by ti I assume it's made by someone on the
>inside
>> > >as
>> > >cracking a 512-bit rsa key is as close to impossible as finding a
>single
>> > >spec of dust in the entire universe. You guys simply aren't giving us
>the
>> > >full story here what's the deal ti?
>> > >-start copy-
>> > >Texas Instruments License Agreement
>> > >By installing this software you agree to abide by the following
>provisions.
>> > >1.  License: Texas Instruments Incorporated ("TI") grants you a
license
>to
>> > >use and copy the software program(s)  ("Licensed Materials") contained
>on
>> > >this diskette.  You, and any subsequent user, may only use the
Licensed
>> > >Materials on Texas Instruments calculator products.
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>> > >Licensed Materials.  You may not sell, rent or lease copies that you
>make.
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>documentation
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>> > >documentation will be free from errors or will meet your specific
>> > >requirements.  The Licensed Materials are made available "AS IS" to
you
>are
>> > >any subsequent user.
>> > >5.  Limitations: TI makes no warranty or condition, either express or
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>> > >merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, regarding the
>> > >Licensed
>> > >Materials.
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>> > >incidental
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>> > >Some states or jurisdications do not allow the exclusion or limitation
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>BUTTON,
>> > >IF
>> > >YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS LICENSE, CLICK ON THE "DECLINE" BUTTON TO
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>> > >THE INSTALLATION PROGRAM.
>> > >-end copy-
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: <jonufreiczuk@ti.com>
>> > >To: <serial@earthlink.net>
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 9:29 AM
>> > >Subject: Re: Ti89 And AMS2.01
>> > >>
>> > >> Matthew,
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you for your e-mail.
>> > >>
>> > >> The AMS version 2.01 that you have downloaded was not developed by
>Texas
>> > >> Instruments.  Texas Instruments did not develop this software.
>> > >>
>> > >> Therefore, Texas Instruments will not support any early released AMS
>> > >> versions not downloaded from the official TI web site
>> > >> (http://www.ti.com/calc/flash/89.htm). Therefore, there will be no
>> > >> available guidebooks or technical support for version 2.01.
>> > >>
>> > >> If you have any further questions or comments please feel free to
>contact
>> > >> us at your convenience. Please copy this message in your response
and
>> > >send
>> > >> directly to ti-cares@ti.com for faster service on replies.
>> > >>
>> > >> Kind regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> John Onufreiczuk
>> > >>
>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> Educational & Productivity Solutions
>> > >> Customer Support Center                E-mail: ti-cares@ti.com
>> > >> Texas Instruments
>> > >> PO Box 650311 M/S 3962
>> > >> Dallas, TX  75265                      (972)917-8324 (Technical
Help)
>> > >>                                        (800) 842-2737 (General Info)
>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>  www.ti.com/calc
>> > >> ========================= ORIGINAL MESSAGE
==========================
>> > >>
>> > >> [ serial@earthlink.net on 11/30/99 6:49:37 PM ]
>> > >>
>> > >> Name:  Matthew Tocki
>> > >> Email:  serial@earthlink.net
>> > >> Message:
>> > >> I purchased my ti89 the first day it hit
>> > >> the shelves of staples. Now up until
>> > >> today I've never never been dissatisfied
>> > >> with it or it's operating. But I assume
>> > >> by no fault of your own our group on the
>> > >> assembly-89@ticalc.org mailing list is
>> > >> pretty upset with you. You see we got our
>> > >> hands on ams 2.01 to check out all the
>> > >> neat things you guys promised us. Well it
>> > >> was pretty disheartening to learn that
>> > >> nothing works right but that's okay
>> > >> because we can rewrite our programs to
>> > >> use the new registers but then we are
>> > >> again shocked to learn that in spite of
>> > >> giving us all the extra space you have
>> > >> limited the total space an asm program
>> > >> can use to 8k. Now we all understand that
>> > >> ti is out for the quick buck vs. say hp
>> > >> who actually promotes programing on their
>> > >> calculators. The loss of greyscale was
>> > >> annoying but the fact is Ti no good
>> > >> app/game can be limited by 8k. I'm
>> > >> writing this because i'd like to inform
>> > >> you that 99% of the Ti community has HW1
>> > >> still and we do indeed know how to use
>> > >> the flash hold in that. So it will be far
>> > >> less than a month before we are able to
>> > >> crack open the flash rom license code and
>> > >> be able to use our full space and even
>> > >> have the benifit of having it called a
>> > >> licensed flash app. So since it's not
>> > >> officialy released yet I make the plea
>> > >> that if you limit our individual space
>> > >> usage and attempt to charge us for
>> > >> programs as lame as the organizer which
>> > >> can be written by anyone here faster
>> > >> cleaner and of couse CHEEPER your going
>> > >> to be making a bad move. Most of the
>> > >> support Ti calculators get is from people
>> > >> who program and play games. If you allow
>> > >> us to do neither your asking for it. I'm
>> > >> not a master of economy but I'd assume
>> > >> taking away the two biggest reason that
>> > >> people buy ti's is going to make them go
>> > >> with the hp. So what I'm really saying is
>> > >> please Ti before you officialy release
>> > >> the ams2.x officialy allow us more
>> > >> freedom for programming or we'll go
>> > >> around you somehow anyway. Keep in mind
>> > >> that your so called security measures are
>> > >> not as secure as you think since now you
>> > >> have a flash app installer and the easy
>> > >> to install .89u format. You did infact
>> > >> promise us that our calculators would
>> > >> never be oudated but then WHAM Hardware
>> > >> version 2 and another nice kick in the
>> > >> teeth. I'm interested on your thoughts of
>> > >> this ti.
>> > >> -Serial
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