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Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]




or to have a parallel circuit that can recycle the voltage..  My 
daughter likes to hit the send button on me....



>From the desk of zeneca@netzero.net <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>. 
 At 16:04 zeneca@netzero.net wrote: 

> 
> Eugene, you have it wrong..
> 
> Cap's only hold the maximum voltage that is supplied by the circuit.  also
> the only way to "trigger" a cap is to turn off the supply voltage...
> 
> From the desk of Eugene Dirks <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>. 
>  At 9:33 Eugene Dirks wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > ok i'm going against my own advice to post this, but i think it is at
> > least asm related to talk about being able to make more complex games...
> > ...first the answer... <IGNORE IF YOU ONLY WANT ASM STUFF>
> >     ok i've taken an ind.study physics class and messed around circuit
> > boards         and stuff...i may be completely wrong but i'd say that
> > don't capacitors store         energy then release it when
> > triggered...so a higher pf capacitor (22pf is                 default i
> > believe) would store more energy and thus take more time to release
> >     it then no capacitor thus slowing the calc down...that's my theory
> > <END IGNORE> ok wasn't the reason everyone said that we couldn't do TRUE
> > 3d in z80 asm was because that the matrix multiplication required would
> > be much to slow. i would like to get some kind of idea how many people
> > have sped up their calcs and also how many of them are capable of some
> > z80 asm.
> >  then we could actually write programs for this group (ourselves).
> > 
> > even i who by self declaration am most certainly not a great asm
> > programmer could write the routines to rotate things defined in true 3d
> > space.  with the speed increase their would be no problem except perhaps
> > low screen resolution.
> > 
> > SO...THE POINT OF THIS RAMBLING....
> > would anyone here be interested in starting some projects in asm that
> > are based on the purpose of testing what we can do with our calcs
> > running at 21mHz while everyone has their's at 6mHz.
> > 
> > there i thought that was at least more asm/programming related then
> > comments by those who were making comments just too complain....
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Thomas <david_hd@yahoo.com>
> > To: <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 2:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: A86: Theory question [i think its about time we....]
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > You could certainly do better games for it tho...
> > > (Only do it after you've gotten tired of everything
> > > available)
> > >
> > > BTW: What exactly does removing that capacitor speed
> > > up?
> > >
> > > --- warhorse <warhorse@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The problem with that is games and such run too fast
> > > > and you can't slow it.
> > > > terrence
> > > >
> > > > Eugene Dirks wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > you can get the calc to run 3x-4x faster
> > > > (18-24mHz) by simply removing the
> > > > > c13 (is this the right one?) capacitor.  I did and
> > > > have had no ill side
> > > > > effects.  Don't even bother putting a different
> > > > capacitor in; just remove
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > as long as we're on the topic. what would
> > > > increasing the voltage by very
> > > > > small increments do?  if done carefully couldn't
> > > > we get even more speed out
> > > > > of it?
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: David Thomas <david_hd@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: <assembly-86@lists.ticalc.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:26 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: A86: Theory question [i think its
> > > > about time we....]
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Things I think people want changed:
> > > > > > > 2) Speed - needs to be faster (and slower for
> > > > > > > games/playing tricks on
> > > > > > > friends)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was thinking... you can get a 20 MHz Z80 for
> > > > $12...
> > > > > > I f you removed the chip currently in there, and
> > > > > > replaced it with one of those, the calc should
> > > > run a
> > > > > > lot faster (the bus and memory access would slow
> > > > it
> > > > > > down, but it should still be a fair amount
> > > > faster...
> > > > > > maybe if you coupled this with that 4x speed
> > > > > > thing...).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: Why aren't you all in line for Star Wars
> > > > tickets?
> > > > > > I've got a freind holding my place in line... :)
> > > > > >
> > > >
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