In a message dated 8/28/98 4:36:45 PM, you wrote: <<If you use _textshadow variables, it will work in all shells.>> I know you gave an example of this, but how do I know that some other program isn't using certain _textshadow spaces? Also how big is _textshadow? 168 bytes or 1024 or something else? thanks for your help so far!