Re: A86: Please read this!!! New shell!!! I need help!


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Re: A86: Please read this!!! New shell!!! I need help!



KewlAid wrote:
> 
> Jimmy Mårdell wrote:
> 
> > KewlAid wrote:
> > >
> > >     Here is the proposal. We must create a shell to act as the
> > > standard, to be useful in its existence.
> >
> > Yes, a standard must be created AND there is already a proposal on how
> >
> > the standard will look like. I don't have the URL to that location
> > at the moment though.
> >
> > > MODULES PENDING CREATION (Explained in detail in reply mail)
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > -ICONS, 4-6 LETTER CAPTION
> > > -BACKGROUND PIC, MAYBE GRAYSCALE
> > > -VARIABLE-SPEED MOUSE, 8 DIRECTIONS, 2ND=LEFT CLICK, ALPHA=RIGHT
> > CLICK
> > > -START BUTTON
> > > -APD
> > > -PASSWORD PROTECTION
> > > -STARTUP AND SHUTDOWN PROGRAMS
> > > -BUILT-IN ICON EDITOR
> >
> > Umm... all these features are VERY unnecessary since, as you said,
> > Asm(
> > would execute a program just as fine. These features could be
> > implemented
> > in a SHELL, NOT the OS that loads the programs.
> >
> > > **THE FOLLOWING MODULES ARE EXPERIMENTAL**
> > > -TASKS TRAY (works with multitasking)
> > > -MULTITASKING
> > > -TI-82, 83, AND 85 ASM SUPPORT
> >
> > And all these suggestions makes me think you have very limited asm
> > knowledge.
> > Multitasking!? Completely out of questions. It _could_ work, if the
> > programs
> > that would be supported got VERY restricted. And sacrificing that for
> > something
> > so unnecessary as multitasking is not that clever imho.
> 
> For multitasking, i was thinking more on the lines of pausing the
> program.
> 
> >
> >
> > And TI-82&83 asm support... you could maybe EMULATE it, if you don't
> > mind the
> > games going 20 times slower. Since those calcs uses an external device
> >
> > to access
> > graphics (and uses a port which isn't used on the 86), it would be
> > impossible
> > to support that.
> 
> Ok. I did not know of this difference in Port. Sorry
> 
> > As for 85 support - IT CAN'T BE DONE! If someone made a
> > super-AI
> > program that scans through a program and detects all calls to the ROM
> > and exchanges
> > those with the correct rom calls for the 86, you have a start. And you
> >
> > also have
> > to change all RAM address... and how on earth are you going to run a
> > program
> > that's bigger than 10k (or 16k to make it extremly hard)!? A
> > suggestion:
> > before
> > posting "possible features" like this - think it through yourself.
> > Since
> > you want
> >
> > > -DYNAMIC LIBRARIES, APPENDS TO SHELL
> >
> > At least something that's a good suggestion AND it's in the proposed
> > standard
> > as well.
> >
> > > -ACCELERATED BASIC
> >
> > Eh... making your own basic interpretor? Would would theoretically,
> > although I
> > doubt you can make it much faster than TI:s
> >
> 
> BASIC converted into semi-ASM?
> 
> > > -BUILT-IN LINKPORT SOFTWARE
> >
> > Would most likely be in a library.
> >
> > --
> > Jimmy Mårdell                "The nice thing about standards is that
> > mailto:mja@algonet.se         there are so many of them to choose
> > from."
> > http://www.algonet.se/~mja
> > IRC: Yarin                   "Sanity? I'm sure I have it on tape
> > somewhere!"

am i the only one thats gettin doubles of these?!?!


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