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LZ: Shells and More



I agree with him. Just make a basic shell(such as zshell) and if people want security features, just find a security program. If people want to use their expanders, just get the program.

the only good, solid reason that I can think of is this: people want to keep the shell(s) small, and including expander software is a waste. Unless the programmers make 2 different versions, one with and one without, then it would be fine. If people want security features(don't know what for, just take out the batteries, and copy someone else's calc), go get a program that will do this. just keep the shells as small as possible, and LEAVE IT ALONE!!! C(Z)Shell is fine!!! LEAVE IT ALONE, and get rid of large shells(OS-85).

Jeff Dezur
jeffd@wwnet.com



>Okay, I refuse to stay quite about this.  First of all, we had a great
>shell that worked fine and everthing was compatible. (Z-Shell), then one
>day this kid thought it would be great if he could make a shell that
>resembled Win95 (OS-85), but it was a piece of crap!  He slowly made it
>better, and now it is sorta worth having.  But Z-Shell by far was still
>better.  He made one game for it, no one else does, because no one else
>wants to.  Compatability problem!  Then we got a new shell (C-Shell), it
>was almost exactly like Z-Shell except it added a few features that
>Z-Shell lagged.  It was all that was needed!  The only reason either of
>these shells was made was because we were tired of waiting for Z-Shell
>4.5, which will NEVER come!  But, C-Shell did a very good job, better
>than the Z-Shell team I think (personally), and OS-85, well didn't! 
>Now, everyone says, hey, if he didn't, why can't I?  Well, nothing is
>stopping you, but like people have said, it willl turn out to be like
>UNIX!  We should just kill OS-85 and make one shell (C-Shell or Z-Shell,
>or a combination) and just add the few features.  We have utilities to
>add things we want, not shells.  I don't think we need expander software
>in the shell, thats what the expander software was for.  Also, we don't
>need interrupts.  Thats what GWIZ and ZDBug are for.  Yes, piggybacking
>interupts would be nice, but hell, e-mail the programmers of those
>program for it.  Not the shell maker.  Lets just drop all this I have a
>better shell crap and get back to actuall programming of games and
>utilites.  Thas what list-zshell is for!  This isn't list-multishells! 
>Okay, I can see flames coming on this one, but I don't care!
>
>John
>HTP




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