[A83] Re: Apps: part II

To: assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
From: "Dan Weiss" <dwedit@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:25:39 -0500
Reply-To: assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org

How about a 16x10 B&W image for each of the first 100 elements then?


>From: "Michael Vincent" <hookman@worldnet.att.net>
>Reply-To: assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
>To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
>Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
>Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:00:33 -0700
>
>
>You have Elements confused with the game. My Elements is a science program.
>
>--
>Michael Vincent
>Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
>--
>Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
>Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan Weiss" <dwedit@hotmail.com>
>To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 3:18 PM
>Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
>
>
> >
> > Either:
> > 20 frames of automatic animation for every object
> >
> > or
> >
> > Animation for the tile screen, and include contrast changer and contact
>info
> >
> > or
> >
> > Add mini fast tunnel + knight moves + IceClimb
> >
> >
> > >From: "Michael Vincent" <hookman@worldnet.att.net>
> > >Reply-To: assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org
> > >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> > >Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
> > >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:47:17 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >I have 2817 bytes remaining in the app version of Elements. Any
>suggestions
> > >on how to use it?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Michael Vincent
> > >Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
> > >--
> > >Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
> > >Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ronald Teune" <rtwolf@gmx.net>
> > >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:12 AM
> > >Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ah! You made elements! Great program! Wouldn't it be possible to
>convert
> > >it
> > > > to an app? If possible together with another program to don't waste
>that
> > > > 3000 kb.
> > > >
> > > > >I prefer TASM over ZDS though. There are subtle differences I
>wouldn't
> > >want
> > > > >to live with. My reasoning is, if I've used TASM for years, and it
> > >works,
> > > > >why switch?
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Michael Vincent
> > > > >Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
> > > > >--
> > > > >Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
> > > > >Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Dan Englender" <dan@calc.org>
> > > > >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:25 PM
> > > > >Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yes, you could write the source in notepad, and use TASM to
>compile.
> > >I
> > > > >> strongly suggest (assuming you're running windows) trying out ZDS
>for
> > > > >> application development, but you don't have to use it.  A
> > >ti83plus.inc
> > > > >file
> > > > >> that's usable with TASM is included in the MirageOS zip file  
>(TI's
> > >is
> > > > >> formatted for ZDS).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Technically the calc doesn't skip all 128 bytes, it'll start
>running
> > >code
> > > > >> somewhere in the middle of that pad of zeros (I don't remember
>where
> > > > >> exactly), but it doesn't matter as they're nops.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In terms of what messes up on the Silver Edition, more or less, 
>if
> > >you
> > > > >don't
> > > > >> turn on the "fast mode" of the silver edition, most everything
>should
> > >be
> > > > >> compatible.  The one thing that definitely wont work are
> > >games/programs
> > > > >that
> > > > >> use the link port in non-TIOS protocol.  The reason is that the 
>SE
> > >has
> > >a
> > > > >> "hardware-assist" that automatically sends/receives link-port 
>data
> > >(so
> > > > the
> > > > >> Z80 doesn't have to waste time doing so), and it'll get confused 
>if
> > >you
> > > > >> manually change the link port lines.  It may be possible to 
>disable
> > >the
> > > > >> hardware-assist, I haven't experimented enough to tell.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hope this helps,
> > > > >> -Dan Englender
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "Harper Maddox" <gte172i@prism.gatech.edu>
> > > > >> To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:09 PM
> > > > >> Subject: [A83] Re: Apps: part II
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > so by this methodology, you can write the source code in 
>notepad,
> > >and
> > > > >use
> > > > >> > tasm to compile?  The APP automatically jump to the start of 
>the
> > > > >> > application + 128 bytes, to "skip" the header.  Is that 
>correct?
> > >if
> > >it
> > > > >> is,
> > > > >> > then making a flash application is easier than i thought.  
>Also,
> > >thanks
> > > > >> for
> > > > >> > sharing that bit about the header.  I know its in the help file
>at
> > >TI,
> > > > >but
> > > > >> > the new education.ti.com site was pretty hard to navigate.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > also, Does anyone know what kind of stuff messes up between the
> > >silver
> > > > >83+
> > > > >> > and the 83+?  I noticed that Phoenix 83+ has the graphics off 
>by
>a
> > >few
> > > > >> > bytes on the silver 83+.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Harper Maddox
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ps. If this is the case, then I might port a few games to 83+ 
>app
> > > > >> > tonight.  So a swift response from anyone "knowledgeable" is
> > > > >appreciated.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > At 04:21 PM 6/20/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >> > >Addendum to previous e-mail:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >After you have compiled your app (use "tasm -i -o20 -80 %1.asm
> > >%1.hex"
> > > > >in
> > > > >> > >a batch file), you must copy the .hex file to the C:\Program
> > >Files\TI
> > > > >> > >Education\TI-83 Plus Flash Debugger\Utils\ directory. Open a 
>DOS
> > > > >window,
> > > > >> > >and type "appsign 0104.key myfile.hex" where myfile.hex is 
>your
> > >.hex
> > > > >> file.
> > > > >> > >Then send the *.8xk file it creates to your calc.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >Have fun
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >--
> > > > >> > >Michael Vincent
> > > > >> > >Detached Solutions - www.detacheds.com
> > > > >> > >--
> > > > >> > >Senior Vice-President/Chief Software Architect
> > > > >> > >Radical Software - www.radicalsoft.org
> > > > >> >
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