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Integrated Desktop Released
Posted by Michael on 26 April 2003, 21:42 GMT

Olivier Armand has released Integrated Desktop for the 89, 92+, and Voyage 200. This piece of eye candy will add your programs as icons to the Apps Desktop that is in AMS versions 2.07 and 2.08. It has built-in icons for popular programs, but you can also create your own.

Update (Michael): A new version has been released, with a bug fix. Download it to prevent crashes.

 


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Re: Integrated Desktop Released
Z-95  Account Info

Wow. Looks cool. Ill download it. It looks a little like a better mirage OS with a windows desktop look. Ill install it after the AP calculus test, May 8, after I clear all of my math programs off of my calc.

     26 April 2003, 21:51 GMT


Re: Re: Integrated Desktop Released
Ryan Kearney  Account Info
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Do the have a new manual for the new OS 2.08 (so i can findout how to use the net functions)

     7 May 2003, 13:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Integrated Desktop Released
Tavis Segura  Account Info
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I'm sure you mean the "new" functions.. You should be able to find most of that information in the Voyage 200 guidebook. TI has it in PDF form, split up by chapter. If you're already familiar with the TI-89 or 92+, I'd recommend going straight to the function list to see what they added and modified.

*looks for guidebook link & posts*

     7 May 2003, 22:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Integrated Desktop Released
Ryan Kearney  Account Info
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Ya i mean the new functions for the clock and stuff like that. So thats in the ti92 manual

     8 May 2003, 01:13 GMT

I don't like AMS 2.08
W Hibdon  Account Info

The program looks usefull, and I would download it, but alot of programs, espcially ones with launchers, do not work with ams 2.08. I guess I'll just admire it.

-W-

     26 April 2003, 22:02 GMT

Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
ExtendeD  Account Info
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It is true that PPG-lauchers created with old version of TIGCC do not work on AMS 2.07/2.08. But you can use the latest version of TICT's general launcher 'ttstart' than can run any PPG file, and that will work on AMS 2.07/2.08. Get it in the TIGCC Tools suite (the link is above)

By the way, Integrated Desktop can display PPG files on the desktop and run them, if you have 'ttstart' on your calculator.

- Olivier Armand

     26 April 2003, 22:20 GMT

Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
W Hibdon  Account Info

I have ttstart. So, let me understand. All I have to do is use "ttstart" to launch the ppg file, not the asm file, and it will run?

-W-

     26 April 2003, 22:35 GMT

Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
Christophe Molon-Noblot  Account Info
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It should :)

     26 April 2003, 23:12 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
W Hibdon  Account Info

I broke down and put ams 2.08 on the thing, hope it works.

-W-

     27 April 2003, 00:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
Ryan Kearney  Account Info
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does anyone know where to get ttstart?

     30 April 2003, 13:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
ExtendeD  Account Info
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In the TIGCC Tools Suite on TICT's web site (link above).

     30 April 2003, 19:36 GMT


Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
swtaarrs  Account Info
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Am I the only person here who's heard of the TICT Explorer??? I always see people complaining about launcher issues, but those issues aren't a problem with it. It has built in support for breaking the size barriers and launching ppg files without their launchers. It also has a quick and clean navigation system and can copy, delete, move, archive, etc... It's always on my calculator and usually running, I haven't used the tios var-link in ages.

     27 April 2003, 01:46 GMT

Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
RCTParRoThEaD_ Account Info
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that was the first program that went on my 89. it's quite helpful when u put 160 files in the wrong folder.

     27 April 2003, 03:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I wish I would have tried it out before somebody stole my TI-89. It sounds really cool. I always used VAR-LINK, but I never really had a problem with it.

     29 April 2003, 01:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
ac  Account Info

Someone stole your 89? Ouch, that bites.

     29 April 2003, 16:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Yeah, about a month ago... where have you been? :)

     29 April 2003, 22:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
Camilo Rodríguez  Account Info

Are you going to buy a new TI-89 or will you decide by the Voyage 200?

     30 April 2003, 07:07 GMT

Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
Tacvek  Account Info

Really. Tict-explorer is really the best ti-89 prog there is. Esp when used with pre-os. However I had to alter and recompile pre-os to have it find tict-explorer on my calculator.

     27 April 2003, 04:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
Camilo Rodríguez  Account Info

I agree with you: TICT-Explorer is the best program available for TI-89. I'd like to check also this new Desktop, cause it looks nice. Could you explain me what is pre-os? Thanks.

     28 April 2003, 08:13 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
Christophe Molon-Noblot  Account Info
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PreOs is the only kernel wich is kept up to date... It is the only one that truly works... check it at www.timetoteam.fr.st

     28 April 2003, 18:46 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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PreOS is a kernel that allows you to run certain programs. It's not a shell (no GUI), but I like to think of it as a temporary patch.

     29 April 2003, 01:40 GMT


Browser
W Hibdon  Account Info

It comes with the PreOS browser. If you have "ID", then it is already on your desktop.

-W-

     30 April 2003, 02:04 GMT

Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
WonkoTheSane

<i>I haven't used the tios var-link in ages.</i><br><br>Nor have I, but this integrated desktop thingy is nowhere near as quick as my custom menus. I have a lot of software kicking around in there - mostly small ti-basic apps designed to take the grunt out of getting actual work done, and the custom menus are a much better way of getting at files in a structural/hierarchical way that makes them easy to find without having to leave the "nornal" calculator environment where you are getting things done.<br><br>When AMS 2.08 first came out, the standard desktop was handy as a means of keeping the clock close to hand, but now there are at least 2 excellent utilities (Incredible Status Line and CoolClock) that do it on the nornal calcultor status line.

     28 April 2003, 07:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: I don't like AMS 2.08
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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That is a program I will never part with. I have never had any problems with it and it makes orginization so much easier. I particularly like the ppg support because it makes it so that I do not need to have the individual launchers on the calc.

     28 April 2003, 18:46 GMT

#*#
bizpile

i don't think this program works without AMS 2.08.

     26 April 2003, 22:20 GMT

Wha?
W Hibdon  Account Info

I know. Because I don't want to install 2.08, with disappointment at the lack of games working, I will admire it.

-W-

     26 April 2003, 22:42 GMT

Re: Wha?
ExtendeD  Account Info

All the games that are not too old work on AMS 2.08. With which programs do you get problems ?

- Olivier Armand

     26 April 2003, 23:33 GMT


Re: Re: Wha?
W Hibdon  Account Info

All the programs that have tigcc launchers. But I've been told how to fix that problem above.

-W-

     27 April 2003, 00:47 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Wha?
CajunLuke

I've used several TIGCC games (Mahjongg, Tetris, maybe others) on my AMS 2.08 Voyage 200. They work just fine.

     29 April 2003, 17:30 GMT


Launchers
W Hibdon  Account Info

Yes, but the ones with launchers don't work. Or more correctly, the launchers them selves don't work, you need "ttstart".

-W-

     30 April 2003, 02:05 GMT


Re: Launchers
BlackThunder  Account Info
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In case you haven't noticed, one ttstart program takes a lot less memory that ten custom decompressors.
And if you really need a custom decompressor, use

:gamename()
:Prgm
:main\ttstart("ppgname")
:EndPrgm

     30 April 2003, 23:27 GMT

Re: Wha?
saitei Account Info
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Times like this, kinda make you wish you could setup the calc to dual boot...hmm, that's an idea...think it'd be possible? it'd take up a lot of ram, but...

     27 April 2003, 06:29 GMT


Re: Re: Wha?
Alex Shipman  Account Info
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I think it would be awsome if you could set it up to dual boot between Linux and something else like a Solaris or TI-OS. But Linux of course would be the primary OS.

     27 April 2003, 08:11 GMT


Re: Wha?
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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Launchers work for most games...

     29 April 2003, 01:43 GMT


Re: Re: Wha?
JcN  Account Info

Try using the C launcher in the TIGCC manual. It does not seem to use anything OS-specific.

     5 May 2003, 23:34 GMT


Re: #*#
rmohr02 Account Info
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Correct. AMS 2.08 added the "Icon Desktop" (which would obviously be required by this) and a couple trig functions I'd already had coded anyway. I'll just stick with AMS 2.03 unless they eventually release a new good version.

     27 April 2003, 06:13 GMT

Re: Re: #*#
ExtendeD  Account Info

And it adds the clock on HW2 calculators.

     27 April 2003, 09:58 GMT


~
angelboy  Account Info
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How do you know if your calc is a HW1 or a HW2 calculator?

     27 April 2003, 15:10 GMT

HW version
W Hibdon  Account Info

You press F1, and go to about, on the first line, it will say "TI-89 Hardware Version X.0X" Though I had a calc that did not display a hardware version at all.

-W-

     27 April 2003, 16:06 GMT


Re: HW version
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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That calc that did not say what HW version it was was a HW1 calc. The New OS now identifys it as HW1.

     28 April 2003, 18:48 GMT


Re: ~
ExtendeD  Account Info

If it is a HW2, 'Hardware Version 2.00' is written somewhere in the window. If it is a HW1, the hardware version may not be given.
HW1 calculators are old ones (the calculator should be a HW1 if it was bought less than 3 years ago).

     27 April 2003, 16:21 GMT


Re: Re: ~
Michael O'Brien  Account Info
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Of course you mean "more than 3 years". I have a 5 yr old 89 and a 4 or 5 month old V200.

     28 April 2003, 18:54 GMT


Re: Re: #*#
swtaarrs  Account Info
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Why do so many people still have 2.03? Aren't there good new features/ROM calls in 2.05 that aren't in 2.03? And I have no issues running programs in 2.05.

     28 April 2003, 06:33 GMT

Re: Re: Re: #*#
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I used 2.05. I thought it was good, in that it was compatible with mostly everything.

     29 April 2003, 01:45 GMT


Re: Re: Re: #*#
rmohr02 Account Info
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I got tired of waiting for the hw2patch to come out after upgrading to 2.03, so I just don't upgrade anymore. And, IMHO, 2.05->2.08 is more of a downgrade.

     29 April 2003, 15:48 GMT


I don't like AMS 2.08 either
JcN  Account Info

Yeah. Too bad a lot of good programs out there won't work with the desktop (because it runs on AMS 2.08). Would it be possible to make a shell similar to this for AMS versions that do not support the built-in desktop?

     1 May 2003, 23:21 GMT


Re: I don't like AMS 2.08 either
ExtendeD  Account Info

All the programs which work on AMS 2.05 work on AMS 2.08.

- Olivier Armand

     2 May 2003, 00:36 GMT


I use AMS 2.05
JcN  Account Info

But can I get the desktop to work on AMS 2.05?

     5 May 2003, 23:35 GMT


Re: I use AMS 2.05
Christophe Molon-Noblot  Account Info
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No, it's AMS 2.07 or higher.

     6 May 2003, 00:18 GMT

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