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AMS 2.08 Released
Posted by Eric on 19 August 2002, 07:10 GMT

TI has recently released AMS 2.08 for the TI-89 and the Voyage 200. The new version includes added features such as more trig commands and a novel idea TI is referring to as "clack functionality" (yes, kiddos, I believe that should be "clock"). Anyway, give it a try.

On another note, I've decided to officially retire from ticalc.org, due to massive workloads and such. It's been interesting, but three years is about long enough, anyway. We're currently in the process of deciding how to proceed, so please don't flood our mailboxes volunteering your help just yet, thanks.

Update (Eric): Ok, it appears that TI has recalled AMS 2.08 due to errors with the Black Graph Link cable and TI-Connect.

 


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Re: AMS 2.08 Released
jtjdt  Account Info
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Is It actually worth the Upgrade or just more Restrictions.

     19 August 2002, 07:30 GMT

Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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If you would rather keep time by your TI-92 Plus instead of your wristwatch, or would really love an icon menu, then you need to upgrade. Otherwise, probably not.

There aren't any more restrictions that I have noticed, but the ASM program size limit is still there. This isn't a huge problem anymore. Compatibility seems quite high; of 26 nostub programs I tried, 25 worked (if you use a shell that launches PPGs itself, since some PPG programs come with launchers that are not compatible with AMS > 2.05).

For kernel-based programs, most of those should work also, and if you have HW1 you can even go on using UniversalOS. If you have HW2, though, you need the newer PreOS, and you have to use the TSR version (with H220xTSR 1.10) since there is no HW2Patch for this AMS.

     19 August 2002, 08:02 GMT

Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Kevin Kofler
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And if you hate that automatic alpha lock in dialog boxes, do not upgrade your TI-89 yet! Wait for me to update Auto Alpha-Lock Off next week when I get back home from my holiday trip.

     19 August 2002, 10:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
<h3m04v+0+r0ph  Account Info
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Alpha-lock is off on most of the dialog boxes in the built-in OS (at least the ones that require entering numbers). There is also the ALPHAON/OFF parameter in the request dialog boxes from TI-BASIC. I see no need for the auto-alphalock off program.

     19 August 2002, 16:59 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Joe Blow  Account Info

In all cases that I have seen, the alpha was on, even when you need to enter numbers. That is the reason for auto alpha-off. If you are doing statistics and have to press alpha(and retype when you forget) every time you enter a dialog box, it becomes very annoying, frustrating, and can slow you down.
If you go into a data plot, press F5 to do calculations. The first thing you do is enter numbers, and alpha-lock is on. Where does it not turn on?
It is just more comfortable to press alpha to type letters when you start because you get in the habit of always pressing it when you switch to letters anyway.

     19 August 2002, 17:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
dietsche Account Info
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alpha lock is turned on for all TI-89 dialogs by default on ams 2.xx . The AMS uses this as a default, but flash app writters can override the automatic alpha-lock if they want to.

-Greg

     20 August 2002, 02:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
slimey_limey  Account Info

FYI to Basic programmers, you have to set the alphaon/off parameter to 0 (zero) to turn alpha off, a simple value of False, Off, etc. will not work.

     21 August 2002, 02:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
nathan grigg

you guys are not understanding each other. Yes, alpha lock was on in dialog boxes and it was dang annoying. AMS 2.08 fixes this by allowing (basic) programmers the option to selectively turn on and off a-lock in different spots in dialog boxes. For the record, i still like autoaoff because if i want to type letters i will push the a-lock myself. its not that hard.

     21 August 2002, 07:02 GMT


TI DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IT HAS DONE
Joe Blow  Account Info

TI HAS SCREWED UP

I just tried to put my old programs onto my ti-89, but TI will not let me!!! I had an old function called "SEC()", but the TI-GRAPH LINK can not put it onto the calc...it won't accept it now. This means that I all of my files after "SEC()" can not be put onto my calculator. I tried to skip the file by putting it on my calculator from the calculator, but I can not create a file of that name on the calc. I will have to downgrade to 2.05, put delete the functions, put them onto my computer, upgrade to 2.08, and then put the files onto my calculator! I am sure that this must cause problems for older programs that try to use the names of functions that can not be used. Did TI really need to do that?

     22 August 2002, 09:36 GMT

Re: TI DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IT HAS DONE
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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That's probably because sec() is a built-in function to the AMS 2.08 It's not a "screw-up" on TI's part. I tried to do the same with a program called taylor() on my AMS 2.05, but I didn't know that taylor() was already a built-in function, so it gave me strange errors. You can't use a name that already used as a built-in function.

     24 August 2002, 18:18 GMT


Re: TI DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IT HAS DONE
stu floyd  Account Info
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Could using Virtual TI make the process easyer for you?

     2 September 2002, 13:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
PolarDPres Account Info
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I updated mine just now, and I like it so far, but it does eat up more memory. Not that I have much of a problem there, since I barely ever use my 92+.

     20 August 2002, 01:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
PolarDPres Account Info
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Okay, it worked at first, then it cleared all of my memory, and now it won't even freeaking send it back to the damn Ti-92+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     20 August 2002, 15:59 GMT


Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Martin Klein-Hennig  Account Info
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On a TI89 HW2, which I updated to AMS 2.08, I had problems starting the TICT Explorer (which I enjoy to use). I always got the error: "Invalid relocation data in ASM program". Does anyone know how to correct this?

     20 August 2002, 11:27 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
jtjdt  Account Info
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TICT Explorer is not yet compatible with v2.08 you will have to wait for an update to be made.

     21 August 2002, 00:49 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
slimey_limey  Account Info

Darn. That was the third thing that I tried to do after I upgraded. I then also tried other PPG programs, and none of them worked. The clack is great, though - it hasn't lost a second yet!
Someone at TI must be using a DVORAK keyboard or something, although my clack works fine.

     21 August 2002, 02:41 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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I seriously doubt that PPG programs in general won't work. I have tested quite a few (not including TICT Explorer) and found that 100% of them work. In alphabetical order: Corridor92 2.1, Duke68K 1.01, Explorer 1.00, FlashZ Bomberman 1.00, Insane Game 1.1, Krypton 0.4, Mercury 0.05, Monster 0.83, Othello II 2.5, Platinum Edition 1.01, Rodent Revenge 0.5, SkiFree 0.7, Tetris 1.50, TI-Chess 3.60, TI-Minesweeper 1.1, TI-Pang 1.00, V-Rally 1.00.

For those that give the "Invalid Relocation Data..." error, you can just use the newest version of TTStart to launch them, or use the Explorer shell by Flavien Racine (which requires you to copy TTStart on the calculator by hand, but with it you no longer need to type out the command each time).

     21 August 2002, 03:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
slimey_limey  Account Info

>> For those that give the "Invalid Relocation Data..." error, you can just use the newest version of TTStart to launch them, or use the Explorer shell by Flavien Racine (which requires you to copy TTStart on the calculator by hand, but with it you no longer need to type out the command each time).
I got that, and I tried PHXPLAT, and it didn't work.

     21 August 2002, 04:14 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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What exactly do you mean by "I got that, and I tried PHXPLAT, and it didn't work."? Since the current version now has an updated nostub launcher, you shouldn't even need to use Explorer sbut could just use the included launcher.

     21 August 2002, 04:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Patrick Davidson  Account Info
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Better yet, please E-Mail me the details of this problem at pad@ocf.berkeley.edu

     21 August 2002, 22:44 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
jtjdt  Account Info
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New Beta TICT Explorer 3.x is compatible with 2.08 now.

     11 September 2002, 18:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
jtjdt  Account Info
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I'm sorry the correct version is 1.30 Beta 6 Which offers full screen support for 92 and Voyage 200 and works on AMS 2.08

     11 September 2002, 18:55 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Tomaseth Account Info

I'm having the same problem as you, PPG's just wont work.

     8 September 2002, 16:51 GMT

Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
no_one_2000_  Account Info
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I had sent Eric a reviewer application about 3 weeks ago and never got a response. Should I send it to someone else? If so, who?

     24 August 2002, 18:20 GMT


Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Frank ddrumer  Account Info

Could sombebody post or give me a Download-Link for the Adv. Math. OS 2.08 for TI-92 Plus.

--> fd@ddrummer.de

I would be very very thankful!!!!!

     21 September 2002, 19:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: AMS 2.08 Released
Ben Miller Account Info
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Hello! I recently downloaded AMS 2.08 and ti has taken down the download site due to a problem with the black link cable. I have had some trouble running Doors with my 89 and 2.08. If anyone has a solution, I would greatly appreciate it!

-BigBAM88

     27 September 2002, 21:47 GMT

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