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The High Price of Freedom
Posted by Henrik on 12 September 2001, 17:12 GMT

I doubt that there could be anyone who is not all too aware of the terrible tragedy that occurred yesterday in the United States. We live in a world that is now vastly different from what it was only a day ago.

Our community represents people from across the world. Of all our members, the majority are Americans. Almost certainly, someone amongst our number has lost someone they knew, someone they loved... it is entirely conceivable that a member of our community was among those who died. I do not know. In all likelihood, we will never know. But we do not need to know to show our compassion towards the victims of these terrible acts of terror. Those who died were fellow human beings, and that is enough.

I speak for the entire staff when I say that our thoughts are with you all at this time.

 


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Re: The High Price of Freedom
Babydall3  Account Info

I'm a student at Stuyvesant High School, only 4 blocks away from the WTC. I watched everything that happened from my classroom windows. I saw desperate people jump out windows and saw Tower #2 pancake. Then our school was evacuated, all 3000 of us. When we got outside, the entire sky was black with smoke and soot. There were police officers yelling at us to run, so we ran for our lives. When I looked back, it was like a nuclear bomb exploded, there was a giant mushroom cloud at least 200 feet high. I also saw people covered in plaster with bloodied arms, legs, etc. The scary part was that I had a part-time job there, and I was supposed to be there that day. I never thought anything like this would happen in my lifetime, but it did, and I don't think I'll ever be able to get over it. Please, if anyone or their parents can donate food or money, please do. I've seen the wounded people, and they need it.
-Jenny

     13 September 2001, 00:43 GMT


Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
Nitrocloud  Account Info
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I'll Tell you my school went into a complete lockdown when all external dors are locked outside only, and all internal doors are locked internally only, and then the Police officer stood gaurd at the front door, and its was a ***** to change classes. The bad thing is all TV feeds are shut off and then all communications are shutdown except for phones. I live hundreds of mile away in NC!

     13 September 2001, 01:04 GMT


Re: The High Price of Freedom
David  Account Info

It happened while I was in my composition class. The university soon closed for the day and I didn’t actually end up missing any classes (I suppose that was good), but it was still very shocking. First time I saw it was when I came in to my dorm to see it on TV (my annoying roommates keep the TV on 24/7). It was very surreal because it was like watching a movie, and it was shocking to realize that it was live coverage. You could see people falling, and you _knew_ that they would die, but weren’t dead yet. Very sad day.

     13 September 2001, 01:24 GMT

Re: The High Price of Freedom
Barrett Anderson  Account Info
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terrible. just terrible... if you didn't lose anyone you knew in this (i didn't) it will definately effect you dramatically. anyone know how jacked the economy is going to be??? dollar went down (or up???[just negatively]) a couple percent in a couple hours. oil is more expensive... (just what we need!!! higher gas prices!!!) i'm no economy expert. anyone know what this will bring to the economy of the US and the world???

     13 September 2001, 01:33 GMT

Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
John Doe  Account Info

the terrible events that took place will have no long-term effects on the economy. the only reason gas prices went up so high is because they were gauging- making a profit out of an emergency. It's illegal, but they did it anyway. The stock market might go down a little now, but in a few months everything economy wise will be back to normal.

I too am disgusted by the events. I think the only way to defeat terrorism is to take a strong stance. We must attack the source of terrorism; we must attack it's heart and soul (even though it has no soul). This means using miitary force on terrorist-harboring countries to find and extract all terrorists. I believe that is the only way to stop terrorism.

My sympathies go out to all affected by this attack; my prayers go to those who died.

     13 September 2001, 06:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
lord_nightrose Account Info
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i believe you meant 'gouging', but your point is taken. I'm picky about spelling and grammar.

     15 September 2001, 04:16 GMT

Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
David Butenhoff  Account Info

OPEC has control of the OIL/Petroleum prices, so you sould see what THEYVE been doing to prevent (or trigger) an increase in prices

     15 September 2001, 20:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
Robert Mohr  Account Info

In this case it was managers of gas stations who jacked up the prices.

     24 September 2001, 03:07 GMT

Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
acr34  Account Info
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Relax, once Bush gets his war on Iraq the oil prices will go down again.

     24 January 2003, 23:56 GMT


Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
acr34  Account Info
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Relax, once Bush gets his war on Iraq the oil prices will go down again. Even if he has to fake evidence of "terror weapons" (like the ones US gave Iraq 10 years ago and still gives Israel today)

     24 January 2003, 23:56 GMT


Re: Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
Barrett Anderson  Account Info
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nice late comment there... lucky i'm reading this again =Þ... Not as much oil comes from that area as you think... we probably get more domestic oil than the middle east. I have to say that i agree with going to war against Iraq.. ALTHOUGH, Bush's motives may not be the greatest - i still think it's a good idea, and should have been finished with Bush's daddy. They have gone against the UN for 13 years, and no one is doing anything about it. This is starting to remind me of Germany in WW2. everyone told Hitler to stop, he agreed, but of course didn't intend on stopping.

     1 February 2003, 05:03 GMT

Yesterday, A Day Of Infamy
Zachary Talley  Account Info

I begin by saying my prayers are with the United States and the world. . . .

I live in Arkansas - about 15 minutes from the Louisiana border and an hour from the Texas border - and I am shook as much as those who opened their window shades everyday to the mightiness of the World Trade Center towers. It was all vague at first and I laughed and joked like the rest of us, but not four hours later I was unblinking and staring into a world of enragement. An act as such can be surpassed by nothing in my life time (I'm only 16, so I don't have much to go on).
Like some have said, this is a good thing. And I guess you can say that. It has brought Americans closer together. Those who once cursed the American flag now curse those who burn it. I have never been patriotic by any means, until I found out that /my/ planes crashed into /my/ buildings. Now I know what it means to be a true American: to hold freedom in the highest regard.
But that freedom does come at a high price. "These are the times that try men's souls." Thomas Paine said during a crisis in American history, and it is suffice enough to be said here. Many people died because some group of people didn't get their way. How low can one be? This was an act of hate towards the U.S. - and the world - and it should not be taken near lightly. I think in such times extreme measures should be used in ceasing any actions as such. I believe military action should be applied where it need be to insure the safety of the American people - and the world's people - and should bring to justice those responsible before, now, and in the future. But through all this, I believe the American people - and the world's people - should not lose hope, for hope is the ground of life.

This is the way I see it. God be with all who are affected and those others who call upon his name.
~ Zachary

     13 September 2001, 01:52 GMT


Re: Yesterday, A Day Of Infamy
BigRedDog Account Info

I would personally go and fight the terrorists in the trenches, in the air, or on the water. I actually want to, but I am only 15 and can't enlist, damn.

Patriotism only goes so far if you aren't willing to FIGHT for our nation.

     15 September 2001, 00:33 GMT

Re: The High Price of Freedom
Kai  Account Info
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I just can´t believe that the World Trade Center is gone. And, of course all those 10,000´s of people. But the World Trade Center was visited by me so many times. And now it´s just a pile of ruble. So sad. This is really THE greatest catastrophe since the beggining of mankind. RIP WTC 1972-2001 and all the people that died with it.

     13 September 2001, 02:17 GMT

Re: The High Price of Freedom
Goku081188  Account Info

This is such bullshit. Why would a terriost group do such a horrible thing as to kill thousands of people and destroy such a land mark. Then they have the right to go into hiding? Sorry about the cuss. I usually do not but that is the only way to get across the way that i feel!!!

     13 September 2001, 02:42 GMT

Re: The High Price of Freedom
Michael Payne  Account Info

I myself am a New Yorker, i have been to both World Trade centers and have been evacuated. I live in Northern Manhatten and was attending school when the first plane came in. I beg all of you to donate blood or do whatever you can. Firefighters have lost lives as well as policemen. Right now our blood banks are almost empty, in spite of nearly 3,000 units of blood sent in. I would also like to clear up something on Bin Ladin. He is the prime suspect but I don't belive we should blame him of his country until enough evidence is collected. But, if it is, then I say kill them all.

     13 September 2001, 03:07 GMT

Re: The High Price of Freedom
acdcfan Account Info
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Hello, i live in minnesota, and want to say that the people on board united flight 93, who near as i can tell forced the skyjackers to crash the plane into the earth, they are all heros we will never know the target of that fourth plane. My heart goes out to all of the victims and their famlies.

     13 September 2001, 03:07 GMT

Condolances
Ben Holder  Account Info

I live in Texas and was in my English class when I first heard about the tragedy, and saw both buildings collapse live. There is nothing else to compare this to except perhaps for Pearl Harbor, but I believe that the casualties here will exceed even that. I offer my condolances to everyone in New York and on the planes, and I would also like to sincerely thank the entire world for the outpouring of support and help. This is a sad day for the U.S. and the entire free world, and has served only to fill us with rage and the determination to bring these terrorists to justice.

     13 September 2001, 03:30 GMT

Re: The High Price of Freedom
David Bowland  Account Info
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First, we are very disillusioned by the threats Americans are making. No where in the holy Koran does it state killing is right. It states that arms should only be taken up in the defense of oneself and God. Those who kill innocent people, children, the elderly, wreak havoc on the Earth, or slaughter animals for use other than food will not be allowed to have a happy afterlife. I am not Muslim-I am an atheist.

Second, bin Ladin is obviously a smart man, as well as a coward. He is able to foil the United States for a while and cajole others into following him, you must give him that. However, he is a murderer which is unacceptable. He may not be connected with these horriable events, but he should be punished. One good reason would be the bombing of American Embassies in Africa. Those responsible will be found and put to justice (some of them have been... sorta).

Lastly, the most important thing to do would be to prevent this from happening again. It would be nearly impossible to put an armed guard on every flight. This would also cause problems if that guard was involved or taken prisioner. The best solution would be better airport security such as video cameras (so we could identify those involved) and not allowing knifes on board any plane (they currently are allowed). It would be nothing short of idiotic to accuse immigrants or to try to stop the flow. The country was built on such people and they remain to be our backbone. Also, Americans are quick to point fingers elsewhere and would not like to accept that an American could have done this. Look at the papers for April of 1995, you might see what I mean.

     13 September 2001, 03:32 GMT

Re: The High Price of Freedom
Shavok  Account Info

Perhaps it's just me but in the US and in many other nations around the world it's illegal to aid a crimnial i.e. let a known murder stay at your house and hide him from the police should it not also be the same for nations that aid terrorists should they not also be held accountable and be prosecuted by the UN? i say we declare war on the countries that harbor known terrorists and do nothing to stop their activites.

     13 September 2001, 04:43 GMT


Re: Re: The High Price of Freedom
David Butenhoff  Account Info

Congress has given $40 billion to overcome the tragedy, half of which will go to an attack of whomever the president thinks is a threat. Congress has given Bush the OK to do whatever he wants to any countries involved in any way to past and future terrorist attacks...meaning, any country not doing anything against terrorism, or harboring international criminals. This should help scare some of the countries into exposition of any harbored terrorists.

     15 September 2001, 20:48 GMT

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