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TI Announces TI-83+ Silver Edition
Posted by Nick on 5 January 2001, 22:12 GMT

TI has announced that a new silver TI-83+ will be produced. It looks a lot like the gray iMacs, Handspring Visors, my old GBP, and so forth. It has around 1.5 megs of available Flash ROM and 24K of RAM (quite the insane amount of storage space, if you ask any TI type person). It's estimated to be available in April or May, 2001.

Mmmmmm... eye candy in calculator form. I wish they did this sort of thing with the 89.
Wait, I use Mathematica now. Never mind. :)

Update (Eric): One more interesting thing to note is that the new TI-83+'s will have a CPU of 15 Mhz, which is more than twice as fast as the current model's 6 Mhz and 50% faster than the TI-92. Additionally, Detached Solutions has announced that a brand-spanking new silver TI-83+ will be the grand prize to their Application Programming Contest, previously mentioned on ticalc.org here.

Update (Eric): Yeah, okay, I suck. I forgot that the new TI-83+ will be a Z80 running at 15 Mhz, which is still slower than the TI-89/92 running a 68K processor. So don't go trashing your TI-89 yet :).

 


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Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Nicholas Bendler  Account Info
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ACKPTH! nickd returns.

Anyhow, as if owning an 83+ didn't already make me feel somehow inferior....now I have my first obselete calculator!

So, should we call this thing the 83++ or something?

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asim

     5 January 2001, 22:45 GMT


Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
prabal  Account Info
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if we do, then it should have support for c++ lol. and maybe in the near future we might have a special edition of the 89 called 89 Gold.. haha ;)

     6 January 2001, 05:04 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Robert Mohr  Account Info
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I think it'll be called the 83S or 83+S.

     8 January 2001, 02:21 GMT

Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Jason Kovacs  Account Info
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I'd like to add that this Silver Edition 83+ will be equipped with a 15 MHz Z80 Processor, which will then be the fastest TI calculator available. I am concerned with the gameplay of existing games because their speed will be greatly increased, and perhaps too fast for a user. Maybe the shells that will have to be slightly rewritten for this new calc can compensate for the speed by putting delays in the interrupt routine, but we will see later. I hope to see some programs taking advantage of this 15 MHz processor, and hopefully TI was smart enough to upgrade their LCD Driver too.

     5 January 2001, 22:47 GMT

Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Mahiman Sathianathan  Account Info

I thought that the Motorola 68k processors used in the TI-89 etc had better performance than the Zilog on a clock for clock basis, somehow I doubt that the TI-83 silver edition would be faster than a TI-89 (in most cases) with a 12Mhz Motorola 68k processor. It will probably be much faster at graphing though.

     5 January 2001, 23:21 GMT

Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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Being completely calculator obsessed, I plan to buy one the very first day they are available in the stores near me. I'm already planning a program to slow down existing games, like you mentioned via the interrupts. This calculator sounds so great. This is more than just another calculator. I think this marks the point where TI calculators become more than calculators. They now pack serious computing power!

     5 January 2001, 23:32 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
JaggedFlame Account Info

Since when did a 15 MHz Z80 mean "serious computing power" (since 486, anyway)? And 1.5 MB of storage space? I think TI has a long way to go yet, and HP is already further along with its Xpander. But what I'm wondering is why everyone's trying to turn a calculator into a computer; the College Board will eventually have them banned and we won't have ANYTHING to use on a standardized test.

     6 January 2001, 17:00 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
AuroraBoriales

Haven't you heard? HP has cancelled the xpander and has left the educational scene. They will still be selling their existing calcs, but there will be no more in the future. And in the future, the ROM upgrades and applets will be less and less until the number turns to nil.

DON'T BUY THE 83SE!! Make sure you buy a 89 for the same amount of cash. Not only is the 89 a WAY better mathamatical tool, but it can play MUCH better games! Would you like to be playing bomberman89 in FULL GRAYSCALE, Intelligent AI, and a full level set, SONIC with it's SUPER PHYSICS system, and it's parallax scrolling, or would you rather be playing little crappy games like Dodgeball, the little primitive game where you prevent the black arrorw from touching the balls?

     6 January 2001, 17:50 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Nicholas Bendler  Account Info
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In fairness to the 83+, though, it *does* have games like Phoenix, and uh, um, stuff.

     7 January 2001, 03:29 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Eric Greening  Account Info
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Don't you read? There has been no official word from HP on the matter. But, it's more than likely that the rumor is true, unfortunately...

Glenn Murphy

     8 January 2001, 02:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Jim Haskell  Account Info
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Unfortunately, those particular games won't be playable on new TI89s (they are all Hardware 2)... </nitpick>

     8 January 2001, 22:41 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Konstantin Beliakov  Account Info

HP's Xpander is not a calculator but a fancy hand-held computer like Palm Pilot and based on it's specs it will cost a lot! Besides that, even HP isn't sure whether to releas it or not. Oh, one more thing, if you guys want games why don't you just buy GBA? It's sure can run much better games than TI's.

     7 January 2001, 02:12 GMT

Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
ericman2000
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MirageOS already has the capability of slowing progies down. Just hold the [ON]key and press one of the blue graphing keys for your speed. [Y=] is slow, [ZOOM] is medium, and [GRAPH] is fast. Read the rest of your MirageOS documentation for other neat tricks!

     6 January 2001, 00:05 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Dan Englender Account Info
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Perhaps you don't realize how funny (or at least ironic) your comment is. Jason is one of the two co-authors of MirageOS. Thus, I don't think he has to read the manual :)

I, being the other author, can tell you that we may require an updated version of MirageOS. The problem will lie in the fast screen copy routines. The current routines go as fast as possible without overloading the display controller. The screen copy routines run at the same speed, independant of if you slow down the calculator with the tasker. If the display controller on the TI-83 Plus Silver Edition isn't updated to be as fast as the new CPU (our current guess is that it wont be), we'll need to release a new version of MirageOS. We should get that all sorted out, and release a new version of MirageOS if neccessary, by the time the calculator is available.

     6 January 2001, 00:22 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
ericman2000
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My Bad! I am really bad with names (or screen names, or handles, depending the site or the reality).

     7 January 2001, 23:25 GMT


Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
SHerman@TI Account Info
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Sorry...no change to the LCD Driver in this edition.

     7 January 2001, 17:37 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Jim Haskell  Account Info
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I hate LCD drivers. Memory mapped LCDs are soooo much better =)

     8 January 2001, 22:43 GMT

Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
CDP

good thing i have some extra christmas money... i guess i'll have to get myself one

     5 January 2001, 22:53 GMT

What about the TI-86???
Mahiman Sathianathan  Account Info

Well, all I can say is that the TI-86 needs more of an upgrade than a TI-83+. It looks too outdated, could have flash ROM and a faster cpu. Hmmm.. If the TI-83 plus *silver edition* is going to have a 15MHz CPU, wouldn't that drain a lot of battery power? That would mean u would have to change batteries every 2 months!

     5 January 2001, 23:02 GMT


Re: What about the TI-86???
TimW  Account Info
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I already have to change batteries every two month, so what's your point?

Oh, I get it, now i'll have to change them weekly! :P

     5 January 2001, 23:21 GMT

Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Matt Bagby  Account Info

Well, does anyone know how much it'll cost?

     5 January 2001, 23:18 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Adam Berlinsky-Schine  Account Info
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TI says $30 to $35 more than an existing TI-83 Plus - so it will be somewhere in the range of $125.

     5 January 2001, 23:32 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
TimW  Account Info
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TI's site says that it will be about $30-$35 more than the ordinary 83+.

     5 January 2001, 23:33 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Dan Englender Account Info
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$30 to $35 more than a regular TI-83 Plus. Keep in mind that it also includes a GraphLink cable and some Flash apps (that you would have to pay for otherwise) though. Of course, I'd just like it for the 1.5 megabytes of Flash space, but maybe that's just me :)

     5 January 2001, 23:34 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Michael Vincent  Account Info
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TI says about $30-$35 more than the current 83+. So probably about $125-$140.

     5 January 2001, 23:35 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
JaggedFlame Account Info

Isn't this site cool for getting answers? You got four of them posted within a minute of each other! :-)

     6 January 2001, 01:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
Matt Bagby  Account Info

Seriously...I'm surprised it's not more, though.

     6 January 2001, 20:25 GMT


Re: Re: TI Announces TI-83 Plus Silver Edition
AuroraBoriales

Hmmm. Although this will never parallel or be better than the 89, i'm gonna get it anyways, cause there seem to be more progs for the 83 anyways. But remember that the 83 always shall have worse programs, this is because of it's small screen, it's small screen buffer, slow screen refresh rate, etc.

     6 January 2001, 17:54 GMT

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