Shouldn't it be "Detached Solutions" instead of "Detacheds Solutions"?

What ever are you talking about :)

Can someone tell me what a "limited edition 83+" is? Does it just have the "special edition case" with it?
Thanks!

The limited edition 83+ comes with Ashell 83 pre installed, and has a translucent Bill Nagel autographed cover.

Bah!

I think that TI should make another kind of 'signature' that lets you release updates for apps previously developed. That way, one could provide bugfixes without spending a lot of money for multiple signings.

Also, my copy of VTI (2.5 beta 5) will not emulate an 83+. I have a legal copy of the ROM and everything, but VTI will not even recognize it (the ROM) as existing. Has anyone else had this problem?

Yes, try dumping your ROM again. It didn't work the first few times I did it.

I got the ROM straight from TI's website. I do not own the calculator. I tried it with a friend's calc(just to see if it would work), but it wouldn't even load the dumping program.

you think that's bad, you should see what it does with a ti-73 rom

This contest has everyone rilled up like the mad
With Engalders and Coehens just actin' so rad
We hear from them oh but once a newyears day
When T-I-calc-dot-org writes something to jeer

They fill the bam-boozlers-wizz-wozzlers galore
With long rants and long raves, or broken links to snore!
Methinks weneeds soon a new system today
Where the little guy has voice, and the big guy runs 'way.

With telemark and z80 tutorial to the right
and three ti-25's we'll come to the fight.
Andrew and Andrew will force form into one,
With Patrick and Meijer bringing the twinkies for fun.

They'l shout, and they'l cheer, spewing profanities like opcodes
With people buying tickets like hostess shipping HO-HO's
Top story on tie-cal, "Elite coders have a throw down...
"That proves their popular, I guess your some clown"

When suddenly, oh yes, a figure pushes the croud...
boasting hides of velt creatures, and muskles to be bound
Unknowed was he, this stranger so tall
That the famous people didn't stop, didn't notice at all

With cauldron in hand, he points to the ring
the ladies all fainted while the choir boys sing.
He Jumped into the ring, this unknown from today
The people got quiet to listen to what he say.

"1600 milligrams of ibbey profeen,
four left over bags of candey au haloween,
add in a cup of flower, add in a pinch of deer
two interrupt mode 0 commands, and a keg of I-B-C rootbeer"

Using his manly hands, he formed the conkoction.
Dropping the 86 he got from an ebay's auction.
He took a sip, he took a gulp, he took the cauldron hot
And pourded it down his smelly gullet, iron rings and kot.

The populars looked in awe, with a strange confusion
this freak of all freaks must have had a delusion.
Quickly they scurried back to their domains
Making this unknown the winner the scather of knaves.

Spitting out binary oh so fast,
he Passed on a message to his teacher and his class.

"If your not famous, not pretty, or wern't born in the city
Stay far away from TI and it's flash ram pity"

Come on people. It's just a competition. Not a conspiracy to overthrow the government. Detached_s_ Solutions :) isn't run by profiteering gluttons ( or are they ?!? )

I don't plan on entering this contest, but hey... Why does it matter? It's not like I ever had a chance.

"on and anon, anon nonnon anon... the beat dont stop until I break my rom"

um...

just smile and nod.

he'll be fine once the drugs wear off.

You could at least spell my name right :)
And last time I checked, there were no gluttons in sight around here, especially profiteering ones. The fact that we've less money than we started with might be a direct result of that...

(Oh, and feel free to enter to contest even if you don't think you have a chance. The more the merrier.)

Heh. The typo's were there for a point. My intent was not to come off as being ignorant :).I wanted people to see that I was just joking about the whole thing. Everyone is taking this thing so !@#$ seriously. Like this personally offends them. Just trying to lighten up the mood. (I hope Johan "Coehen" and Kirk "Meijer" got a laugh from it.)

We (Well, at least I) Love what Detacheds has done. I just felt that I needed to throw in an obligatory "Hackers" quote <during the reading of the h4ck3rz manifesto> Dan _Englender_, I apologise If I came off as being "uncool like dat".

Anyway, have you seen Afrosoft Bounce? (TI 83+ Assembley Programs/Source) I mean, my code is so yucky. I just got the impression that all of the 'oldbies' would enter the contest, thus ruling me out(Besides, who wants an Afrosoft Bounce Turbo 2x with a mini Periodic Table built into it?!?). Wait, some of the oldbies are part of Detacheds now...

Ok, now we need a question to seem as If I actually had a point to this post: "Although Detacheds is co-hosting the contest, will It's members be joining the contest?"

Well, at least something good could come of this. I wouldn't ever email the ACZ for permission to use their ATOM code, much less ask for permission to use someone else's routines (Even If they are better.) For the people with more confidance in themselves than I, that will give them a chance to write their own code.

How about limiting the amount of outside code allowed? I could go to a place such as tie-cal, download twenty some graphical routines, another four or five menu routines, more than a handful of writeback and data handling routines, and barely type a line of code.

To any Detacheds members reading, I suggust that you express a limit on how much outside code one can use (<49% of total work?!?) Oh well.

"on and anon, anon nonnon anon... the beat dont stop until I break my rom"

and furthermore! There's only one way that I would even consider entering this project. Much like many of the people here, I want to hear from the worlds greatest programmer on the subject. The king. The god. The only calculator programmer I really respect. The first. The last. The everything. The late, yet still great...SEAN REED! It's a shame that he's not around to make sense of all of this.

Yes, I know the Ebble-eppians out there would debate otherwise, but deep down in everyone's heart...They know the truth. Sean Reed has Skills.

Send my regards to broadway...

"on and anon, anon nonnon anon... the beat dont stop until I break my rom"

I knew you were just kidding, and I didn't take offense (at least not much ;). As a matter of fact, no one ever spells my name right even if they're trying (Englander, Eglander, Engander, ...).

Anyhow, as for your questions...
Detached Solutions members can not participate in the contest since we're the ones judging the entries.

I want Afrosoft Bounce Turbo 2X! But you can leave off the periodic table...

We're not going to express a distinct limit on the amount of outside code that can be used, but we do expect that you will "thank" authors for code you borrow in your documentation, like all nice people do. If you "borrow" so much code that we can visably tell (ie. Phoenix with different graphics), then we're going to take off points in the Originality area.

Wow, someone actually has heard of ATOM? I'm amazed. Maybe that means someone actually looked at the source code to Zelda :)

That was a project that started out to be a reusable engine, but turned into Zelda. You might find a few useful routines in there, and you are welcome to steal them or learn from them. I did release Zelda under the GPL, so you wouldn't even need permission to use anything from it's source :)

But if you actually do want or decide to do something with it, I would be very interested in knowning about it.

(applause)

linkz()r

Well, I thought this was great, even though I have a TI-89 instead of an 82+. I was interested in the Flash Apps, and thought this would give me some good sample code to look at and try and figure it out. But after reading this first page and learning that TI makes you pay to put a flash app on a calc, I've lost all interest in it altogether. Great job, TI. Your effort to spark interest has completely and utterly failed. *sigh* Oh well. Back to figuring out how to use C (which I already know btw) on a TI-89... And Flash apps seemed so cool too...

That's why this contest exists!!! You can make a FREE application and get it signed and then maybe even get more cool stuff along the way! All you have to do is make an app, submit it, and if its chosen as one of the winners, you'll get your app signed FREE!! You could even win 3 application signings!! So go enter! And this wasnt TI's idea, if was ours. We approached TI asking if they had a problem with us doing this and they jumped on board so more people would be interested!

--Andrew

While I don't doubt my own programming ability, I really don't think that I could win as new as I am to TI calculators. Also, if anybody else that has more experience enters, I have even less of a chance. I may still enter, but I don't see it as being too much more than something to waste time with, especially with the pile of schoolwork that I already have to do.

Ok, I have a question. I decided I'll give this a try, but there's one problem. Since I have a TI-89 and not a TI-83+, how am I supposed to do anything? The news item says I don't have to own a TI-83+ calculator to enter, but on the rules page it says "The program must be for the TI-83 Plus calculator." So how do I write a program for the TI-83+ and test it without owning one?

Goto TI's webpage and look for the TI-83+ Developers section. There you can download the prefered compiler (ZiLog) and a debugger that allows you to test the 83+ flahs apps with out a signature. Using these two tools you can create your app w/o ever having a 83+.

Correction: that should be 83+, not 82+ (though everyone could probably figure that out anyway)