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TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Posted by Eric on 22 September 2000, 00:35 GMT

TI has released a new FLASH application for the TI-89/92+. It's called EE200, and is designed for first and second year college electrical engineering students. The best part? It's free! Well, sort of. In TI's Online Store you can download a limited-use demo and find out more information about EE200 for the TI-89 and TI-92+.

If you find this software particularly useful, you can buy the full version of EE200 for $19.95 from the aforementioned Online Store.

Thanks to Olivier Miclo for the link, who also states that there will be an article posted at ti-cas.org tonight regarding usage of EE200.

 


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Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
redhick5  Account Info
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This is y i hate Flash apps for the 89, unless u want a not so good one u have to pay for it or now its get the demo, i think i payed $150 buks for my calc and it said i would be getting free flash upgrades and programs, well damit, i want the free and i want them now!

thats my 2 cents

     22 September 2000, 00:45 GMT

Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
PsySpy  Account Info

Is it possible for peaons like us to be able to program Flash Apps?? If so, how???

PsySpy the Chosen

     22 September 2000, 00:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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You'll have to wait for the release of the TI-89/TI-92 Plus SDK. I'm guessing that the SDK will allow you to create flash apps that run on the SDK's emulator, but in order to test them on your calc or have them signed, you'll need to purchase an SDK license.

     22 September 2000, 01:50 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
PsySpy  Account Info

Wow....thats really dumb.......i think that anyone should be able to progam the flash apps......i'd like to see what nick could do if he prog'd them

PsySpy the Chosen

     22 September 2000, 03:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Nick Disabato  Account Info
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OH MY *GOD*.
(rolls eyes in over-dramatic way)

Why does everyone think that, if I did some activity I'm not likely to do, I would do it better than anyone else. It's almost like that if I decided to join the American Olympic Luge team that I would be the greatest damned Luge player in all existence.

THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

I'm a good writer. I'd like to think I'm a good news editor. That does *NOT* mean I would be a good coder in the assembly language, or any other language, or any other activity for that matter.

Please have the common sense to distinguish my writing prowess from my programming ineptitude.

--BlueCalx

     22 September 2000, 05:02 GMT


Re: Crazy Nick Disabato
Stuart Bergstrom  Account Info
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Finally, someone who hates Nick as much as I do! That conniving weasel still owes me seven bucks from that tape he bought at that Misfits concert. I want my money, dammit!

Love, Stu

     23 September 2000, 00:39 GMT


Re: Re: Crazy Nick Disabato
Skube-Dpp  Account Info
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I love the Misfits! Go Danzig go.

     23 September 2000, 02:06 GMT

Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Redemption  Account Info
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I have this bad feeling that is discussion is going to be the same exact thing as the one for ME-Pro was about the price of programs. Why doesn't everyone just read that discussion and not bother to do the same thing here?

     22 September 2000, 01:02 GMT

Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Nathan Haines  Account Info
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You do get free Flash updates and programs. Those are your AMS updates and things like Finance, List/Statistics Editor (that was a good thing, for the List editing--I don't use the other), and language localizations.

     22 September 2000, 01:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Ryan Pelletier  Account Info

So we gat the ASM's that allow us to use less and less AMS progs with each update and a whole pile of crapy APPS for free. The only thing good we get is TI-CABRIĀ®. I guess thats what we get for beleiving TI's advertisments.
Ryan.

     22 September 2000, 03:40 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Samuel Stearley  Account Info

Why have two free geometry apps to use instead of the old one- they should replace it in AMS

     22 September 2000, 15:32 GMT


STATE YOUR A 92+ USER!!!!
Cpt.Ginyu

Not everyone gets these apps for free. (Now all these 89 novices are going to run around trying to find cabri and gsp for free)

     22 September 2000, 21:41 GMT


Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Samuel Stearley  Account Info

I wrote yapt, a periodic table for the ti89. It is far better than the flash app 83+ periodic table. My dorm mate just got it free for his 83+ so I have looked at it a bit.

Anyways, people like you like to complain about paying for apps but when a programer such as myself makes something better and requests help in debugging I get no response.

The entire purpose for an initial release is to find bugs, but with such a program as yapt you are only going to find bugs in data either by accident or by actively searching them out. So I had the idea to ask for help to actively search them out. As of this posting yapt has been downloaded 243 times. But nobody has volunteered or even thanked me. I really like my program but I will not program for ingrates.

We are capable of writing our own apps but we still have to help each other. Whether or not they execute from flash rom is of limited importance.


-Samuel

     22 September 2000, 02:49 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Ryan Pelletier  Account Info

Actually...the part of the SDK making programs run from the FLASH ROM is really cool...it brings the 64k limit to 700k.
Ryan.

     22 September 2000, 03:42 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Thomas Nussbaumer  Account Info
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There is no real 64kB limit for apps running from RAM. Its easy to overcome this limit.

     22 September 2000, 09:51 GMT

Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
David Phillips  Account Info
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Your comment points out a very major problem with the TI community. People write some very amazing programs, but no one ever bothers to thank them, offer suggestions, etc. If you like a program, email the author and tell them that you like it. Offer a suggestion or two if you have them. If you find a bug, tell them. You may think it's pointless, but that one email from someone saying how much they love the game you wrote could really mean something.

     22 September 2000, 05:51 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
JrJinfinity  Account Info
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You have a point there. Had I never received any email for any programs I have written for TI's, I would have quit programming them long ago.

Thanks everyone who has supported my cause, you have given me a gift that is irreplacable.

-JrJinfinity
http://redrival.com/jrjinfinity

     22 September 2000, 12:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Summoner  Account Info
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Hey guys, I don't know about you, but for many programs I get on my calc and I like, I email the programmer and comment on the program (good comments) and I also try to help if there are things I can do like testing or ideas... I thinkwe should make it a custom to email back programmers for their good work after coding a program, which they do in their spare time, I don't know I do it usually, I think other ppl should too... I don't do chemistry and I can't really help you there Samuel, but I think that the TI community should help each other more, cause if not, then who we got?

::Ariel::

     22 September 2000, 10:10 GMT

Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Rob Sowby  Account Info
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Why does TI charge $$ for Flash apps?

     22 September 2000, 00:47 GMT


Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Nathan Haines  Account Info
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Flash apps are damn hard to program, and it takes a lot of time and money to write and test them. TI has to pay the programmers somehow.

Actually, many Flash applications are not made by TI at all, but are written by third-party developers. TI merely links the them as a reseller for your convenience.

     22 September 2000, 01:18 GMT


Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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The difficulty of programming any given flash app can vary greatly depending on what specific tasks that app does, but I'd say that writing a TIOS-like flash app is typically easier that writing a similar program with TI-GCC. Exceptions occur when you move from mathematical applications to games or to other programs that utilize certain TIGCCLIB features.

Rather than explain why Flash Apps are usually for sale, it's easier to explain why they're _not_ for free. Probably most prevalent is the fact that TI charges for certain app development materials and to sign apps, and it's very unlikely that an amateur programmer would pay to create free applications.

We're left with the apps being developed by second- or third-party developers. These developers want to profit off of their programs. This results in many high-calibur programs which we would not normally find, but they're all commercial. Were apps not for sale, it's very, very unlikely that we would ever see anything that comes even remotely close to EE*Pro, ME*Pro, EE200, etc.

As the above post said, TI isn't the developer of these programs, it's the reseller. It's very likely that TI receives commission of some sort with the sale of every flash app. Furthermore, flash apps can only be sold commercially though TI, as commercial apps must be signed by TI.

Just remember, we're better off with commercial engineering programs than no engineering programs.

     22 September 2000, 02:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
brentes
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we were put on earth to condradict each other

     22 September 2000, 02:29 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
prabal  Account Info
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this leaves us no choise but to welcome ti-warez

     22 September 2000, 06:14 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TI Releases EE200 FLASH Application for the TI-89/92+
JaggedFlame Account Info

"Welcome" TI warez? It's practically impossible even to GET TI warez...

     23 September 2000, 23:38 GMT

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