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POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Posted by Andy & Eric on 1 September 2000, 17:17 GMT

It's that time of the month again. We are pleased to announce the winners of the July 2000 Program of the Month Award. Additionally, you may cast your votes on the August 2000 Program of the Month Award.

As usual, the new issue of the ticalc.org Newsletter has also been released to the Newsletter archives.

Update (Nick): Um... looks like my program won. Yay me. Actually, I don't think that it really deserves to win, primarily because it displays absolutely no coding prowess whatsoever. At any rate, I've asked Andy to pull my program from the POTM winners list, and he gladly complied. Apologies to anyone who was infuriated over this; I was complaining too. Thank you.

 


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Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Ed Fry  Account Info
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Congratulations Nick, WFRNG was the first BASIC Program to ever win a POTM Award since the system was changed almost a year ago!

Wait a Sec, It was taken off the list? thats too bad, you were about to make history! So much for good BASIC Programs being competitive under this voting system.

     2 September 2000, 15:27 GMT


Re: Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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I'd imagine BASIC programmers are better off with no POTM awards than having Numbar be known as their best.

If a BASIC program deserved POTM the most, it might get it - but I doubt that's ever going to happen with the limitations on BASIC. And you guys really shouldn't be complaining about fairness, since awarding a POTM to a BASIC program just because it's BASIC is obviously unfair as it takes away an award that can be bestowed upon another program.

If POTM were an award for technical achievement, then I think that a special BASIC award would be necessary - but it's not; it's an award for popularity (and even with that, we get programs that don't even work winning - like the latest version of Street Fighter)

     2 September 2000, 16:39 GMT


Re: Re: Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Ed Fry  Account Info
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If the POTM was just a Popularity contest then why not replace with a top 10 downloads of the month of all the new programs sumitted? it would produce the same results and would be totally automatic.

The POTM was originally designed to award people who made technicial achievements regardless of Programming language. It just never worked out that way. Contrary to popular belief, BASIC is still used to make good programs. Espicially math programs. And all of these good programs are always overshadowed by the latest hyped ASM Game.

Click on the Web page link to see what I Mean.

     2 September 2000, 19:07 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Daniel Bishop  Account Info
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Great ideas, but I think there should be a distinction between games and nongames. If all programs are eligible, these extra categories won't be a problem.

     2 September 2000, 19:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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I think there should be an elitist system where a group of knowledgable calc experts (this is where you raise your hand and profess to being a geek) chose the program. Show me another system where Street Fighter 2 won't win when it's wildly unstable and I'll consider that, but the site linked to a couple posts up sure wouldn't stop that.

     4 September 2000, 07:52 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Ed Fry  Account Info
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It doesn't matter if you have a panel or not. Street Fighter 2 would of won anyway. it won twice (Although I dont agree of it winning twice. Once is enough) because even though it did not work correctly, it was still very impressive when it did work Vs the competition it had for that particular month it was voted on. When it did work it was exactly like the real thing only in grayscale.

It was innovative for it's day. and thats why it won.

     4 September 2000, 17:16 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Scott Noveck  Account Info
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No, the FIRST time it won, it worked. The second time was the version that NOBODY has EVER gotten to run for five full minutes without crashing. It's the one that's in ticalc's archives right now, although I should note it won't even start to run if you're not on HW1 AMS 1.0x. Believe me, I complained loudly that month - there were other deserving programs, and aat least other programs that RAN.

     4 September 2000, 18:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: POTM: July 2000 Results, August 2000 Vote, September 2000 Newsletter
Ed Fry  Account Info
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First off, it should have never been in the second POTM in the first place. Second, Look what it was up against. It was up against a nibbles clone, some puzzle game, and an archive utility that recovers your archive mem if the calc crashed. Hell I'd vote for SF2 based on those odds and the first version if I didn't play the second release. and that's basicially what happened.

Most likely the archive util whould have won it if it wasn't in the second selection, but I didn't say that ticalc did the right thing by posting it twice.

So far they've tried three systems for POTM and they have yet to do it right. And it's ticked off more people that it has made happy. I know i'm one of the ticked off ones.

     5 September 2000, 04:45 GMT
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