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News System Updates
Posted by Magnus on 23 July 2000, 19:03 GMT

We have updated our news system with a bunch of new features. Most of the changes are "under the hood" and invisible to the user, but they should contribute to faster response times if nothing else. The most visible change is that the comment pages are split into parts when they grow large, to provide for shorter load times. Each page will link to previous and next page for navigation between the different parts.

For those linking to articles from other sites, the news article directories are now hashed, so the URL template for articles have changed. Links to our old articles will continue to work with the old address format for backwards compatibiltiy, but new articles will be in the new format.

Please answer the current survey and let us know what you think about the new format.

Update (Nick): On Tuesday, I'm going to be gone for surgery. Yes, it's bad. No, it's not a life or death situation. Yes, I could probably live with it up to a certain point. No, I don't mind this happening. Yes, I'm used to having surgery. No, I shouldn't be gone long. The point: I won't be able to answer emails, AIM, ICQ, whatever - and updating this, that, and the other will be pretty much nonexistent - until I get better. It could take anywhere from three days to a week. I don't need a billion emails and/or comments and/or AIM messages telling me to get well soon, or any of that: it's really not that bad. Don't worry. :)

 


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Re: News System Updates
Aaron Peterson  Account Info
(Web Page)

I don't mind the 5 minute download... if i could start seeing the top of the messages before waiting for the bottom messages.

Is the split done in the tables on a single page?

or broken into multiple pages.

anyway, another option for letting us read your news quickly would be to specify cell widths and heights.. along with the table.

The problem lies with tables, mainly, then the size.

     24 July 2000, 01:26 GMT

Re: Re: News System Updates
brentes
(Web Page)

then is would download about 16 more bytes per comment because it would have to download "height=xx" and "width=xx"

     24 July 2000, 05:20 GMT


Re: Re: Re: News System Updates
Kirk Meyer  Account Info
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16 more bytes per comment is nothing, for this page it is only about 500 bytes (and wouldn't be much more since they're split into pages now). probably even less, effectively, since your modem compresses that HEIGHT and WIDTH stuff. email them and ask them to do that, i'm sure they'll be happy they asked after they already changed it once =)

     25 July 2000, 05:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: News System Updates
brentes
(Web Page)

At the time of the posting of this comment, the size of this page, as reported by File, Properties, is 56760 bytes. A little off 500 :)

     26 July 2000, 07:21 GMT


Re: Re: News System Updates
David Phillips  Account Info
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The entire comment portion of the page is inside a table, to give it that gray background. Most (all?) browser's wont render a portion of a table until the whole thing downloads. Though, IE will render what it can if it stops halfway through.

     24 July 2000, 05:40 GMT

Re: News System Updates
net-cat
(Web Page)

You need to be able to jump to any specific page.
You also need a way to show all the comments.

     24 July 2000, 02:46 GMT

Re: News System Updates
GTB  Account Info

Hey, I found something wrong w/ the Next Page thing. In the 89 Games PUD's, it doesn't work!

I wanted to update what I was doing on my Gundam Wing RPG for the 89, but I can't! A demo should be out in the week. Thanks!

GTB (The #1 Gundam Wing Freak)

     24 July 2000, 03:51 GMT

Re: News System Updates
Reno  Account Info

No get well soon's? Okay.

Get worse soon!

     24 July 2000, 04:32 GMT

Re: News System Updates
Chris  Account Info
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I sure hope this fixes the bad law when seing the huge pages (Like the stats page). It wouldn't mater if you had a 1Meg modem or a 56K, that page was extremelly slow to load and would hang Netscape for a little while until it was able to display it all.

     24 July 2000, 05:09 GMT


Re: Re: News System Updates
David Phillips  Account Info
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So use a decent browser like Internet Explorer :) It is unfortunate that Netscape has been out of business for the last few years and thus the only decent modern browser is IE for Windows and Mac OS, but hopefully Gecko/Mozilla will be done soon. Maybe if they decided to write a web browser, not a mail reader/instant messenger/irc client, it would be done sometime this decade.

     24 July 2000, 05:39 GMT

Re: Re: Re: News System Updates
Will Stokes  Account Info
(Web Page)

It always pains me to see an ignore TI user, much less a ticalc.org user. In case you havn't noticed, IE is a piece of crap, which does not render HTML properly, does not let you know in a timely fashion if you have coded something wrong, and all those *feature* Mr. Bill has been talking about are really new bugs that won't exactly work correctly, and will most likley crash you computer soon enough. I happen to run Netscape and/or Mozilla on linux on my computer, and you know what, I don't/can't crash it. BTW, you DO know how much hard drive space IE eats away from your drive right?

     24 July 2000, 15:49 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: News System Updates
brentes
(Web Page)

I think you're the ignorant one. IE is so much faster at downloading things than netscape. Netscape takes about 10 minutes to start up, while IE pops right up ready for you. And what are you saying that IE can't render HTML properly? I challenge you to hit the email me button to show me proof of something Netscape will render that IE won't (excludes browser specific scripting). About hard drive space... how serverly is 28MB gonna kill you? That's why you get a decent sized hard drive, not like 28 megs is gonna take up much room anyway.

     25 July 2000, 00:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: News System Updates
calcfreak901  Account Info
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The reason that IE loads faster is that you are most likely using Windoze 98/98se, which has MSIE built in, making it load faster because it is integrated into the OS. Netscape is an enemy of Micro$loth, so Windoze will naturally do all it can to slow down Netscape. Also, AOL and Netscape don't get along very well, although AOL owns Netscape. For some reason, MSIE comes with AOL, despite this. I personally prefer Netscape, but my parents won't get rid of AOL, so I'm stuck using MSIE.

     3 August 2000, 00:25 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: News System Updates
Rosbif22

What are you talking about? I don't think I'd accuse anyone of being ignorant if I were you.

     1 August 2000, 04:58 GMT


Re: Re: Re: News System Updates
rabidcow
(Web Page)

try mozilla m16, it's pretty spiffy. the downside (as with netscape) is that it can take a while to start up. there's a few things that aren't done yet but it seems pretty stable now.

     24 July 2000, 19:26 GMT

personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
phireph0x

dude,
why do you insist on making this site your own personal news venue? I don't really care to know "what's new in Nick's life" when I scan the main page for updates. And I say this out of all respect; I think you do a great job keeping the news updated and such; I also happen to think you're a pretty cool guy. But again, as I ranted previously, I think you personalize this thing *way* too much. Couldn't you have left the "no calls, pages, or e-mails" notice on your personal site? Perhaps I'm being an anal-retentive bastard (and I'm sure there are those who won't hesitate to tell me so).. I like the flair you add to the news, just not all the "what's new in my life today" bits you tend to throw in there rather liberally.

     24 July 2000, 09:49 GMT

Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
Will Stokes  Account Info
(Web Page)

I agree. Nick, this whole ticalc.org thing has gone to your head. Maybe being away from it for a few days will be a little good for you. :)

     24 July 2000, 15:51 GMT

Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
Nick Disabato  Account Info
(Web Page)

If you don't see news items on the site for a few days, you yell at me. If I try to explain WHY you won't see news items on the site for a few days, you yell at me. When I try to explain myself, as to WHY I'm that way, you yell at me.

I am damned if I do, and damned if I don't. Please go away.

--BlueCalx

     24 July 2000, 15:54 GMT


Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
phireph0x

I've never said anything to you or anyone else about a lack of new items. Look, I told you I like the flair you add to the site (and I think you're doing a good job with the news); I thought the fake news item (RNG) the other day was funny.. I especially loved the made up comment from Magnus (you captured his style quite well, I think..heheh). I just don't like all the personal stuff thrown in there.. I think that should be devoted to your *personal* website, nickd.org. Just an opinion, and one you're welcome to disregard if you wish.

     25 July 2000, 02:15 GMT


Re: Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
Nick Disabato  Account Info
(Web Page)

Well, I had the option of dedicating an entire news item to this, and I didn't. I think that this entire thread is offtopic imo... but it's really my fault that I bothered to post this in the first place.

See, a big news item is getting put out tomorrow, and I won't be around to see it being posted or anything. Also, there could be other programs released that I don't know about. I do think I have a responsibility to the users of this site to notify them of a leave of absence. I don't know if I shouldn't have posted about my surgery, but usually many people get worried when one mentions that word and you get "good luck" and "hope it goes well" and all that. I don't need that, because hopefully this won't be that bad a leave of absence.

But I'll still be gone. People on AIM, ICQ and IRC will wonder where I am. This explains it.

Sorry if I irked you, and I didn't mean to make my previous comment sound like a flame.

--BlueCalx

     25 July 2000, 03:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
phireph0x

that's understandable, notifying people you won't be online, I suppose. Didn't mean to give you such shit about the personalizing, but it does irk me a little. Good luck with the surgery (yes, I know.. no "good luck" or "hope it goes well" messages, but still.. WTF else does one say in these situations?).

     26 July 2000, 01:59 GMT


Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
john rocklein  Account Info

DUDE! WHY DONT YOU SHUT UP. I mean Im not trying to be so called "LIBERAL" but Nick Is the God of this site. You on the other hand have noting to talk about or to occupy yourself. Why dont you get your kiester programming and typing, and maintaining this site! Ok im not trying to rant, but shut up ands deal with it. Othwerwise go buy a casio and go to Crapcasio.com or nastythumbs.org and look at that crap.

Sorry nick I just had to (no offense to anybody)

     24 July 2000, 20:56 GMT

Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
Nick Disabato  Account Info
(Web Page)

I am not the god of this site. I don't do nearly as much of the work as any other staff member (except maybe Phil, heh).

He is entitled to his opinion. Please turn the flamethrower off.

--BlueCalx

     25 July 2000, 03:09 GMT


Re: Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
john rocklein  Account Info

sorry nick, It bothers me when people have nothing better to do, so they bitc@ abotu stupid stuff. But your right freedom of speech is what makes our country so great, but sinve we have no major wars going on and The kennedy plane crash is over. So I guess the media has nothing better to do. (By the way I hate the Kennedys-all of the scumbag ones. (Its just my opinion I may be wrong!)

Oh and I just turned the flamethrower off, But strangely it smells like methane gas in here. eh I'll just lite a ciggarette and enjoy life!

     25 July 2000, 20:02 GMT


Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
Nikku-kun Account Info

One comment: Casios are NOT all that bad. I own a Casio graphing calculator, a 9850G. I like my Casio. It's a good, cheap calculator. Just because they might not have the same capabilities as a TI doesn't make it an inferior calculator.

I own three graphing calculators, one of each of the three major brands. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses: for example, TIs to me are easier to use, while HPs have RPN and Casios have what I think are the best graphing capabilities. Just because you own a certain type of calculator doesn't make the other types worse.

- Nik

     25 July 2000, 06:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
knight9000  Account Info

yeah you are right, Every one is entitled to their own opinion. But since this is a Ti site I was just sticking up for its features. Some casios look cool, and they are reasoably priced, but one draw back is that you cant program with them(at least not in asm or basic) But casios do seemmore graph orientated (after all a main purposeof a graphing calculator is to graph)
But you gotta love the Z80 and Motorola 68000!

By the way some casios have extremely cheap buttons!!

     26 July 2000, 18:33 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: personalizing (again) of ticalc.org
Nikku-kun Account Info

Actually, Casios use a modified version of BASIC for programming; it just has its odd quirks and differences from regular BASIC and TI-BASIC.

-- Nik

     29 July 2000, 08:17 GMT

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